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Old 03-04-2008, 03:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Do not pay $100 for an F4, especially one that needs a lot of work done.

... It is incredibly loud and kicks like a mule....
I agree with everythign here, gotta admit that the noise and kick are some of the guns best qualities in my oppinion (Getting a loudner made her)
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I've almost gone deaf shooting that thing.
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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really? because it doesnt seem all that loud to me, it has a few upgrades i think like a new bolt. but im use to shooting a tippmann, though even with the mods on my 98c, it still seems quieter than that. bout on par with my pgp.

as for the kick dont feel much to it, but again i dont shoot ego's or angels lol.

he does have a traccer though, will see if he will part with it, but it looks like it needs work itself, couldnt get it to cock at his house but guessin its due to same problems, age and little maintence.

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They are indead a blowback and do have a ball detent there should be a oval shaped panel held in my two screws (left side of the body I believe) under that panel should be an automag style wire detent

If you can get me specific questions I can probably help you out I still have the manuals around here some place and I have rebuilt mine once or twice.

Speaking of manuals http://www.cet.com/~sbryant/manuals/ACI/f4manual.pdf
found that part, the spring was broke in 2 when i finnaly got the rusted bolts loose, replaced it with a paperclip to try and make a new balldent, doesnt really work too well

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I think AKA sells new detents for these on their site

One thing to look at on the F4 that I really like is the bold, the venturi bolts that ACI made for these are a HUGE improvement over the stock bold IMHO

As far as the traccer goes I don't think it will cock unless it is aired up (by design)
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that could explain why the traccer wouldnt cock then lol. i think its the venturi bolt, honestly i thought it was a fairly good gun when he showed it to me, didnt have any air but it has a light trigger pull, seems quiet IMO and no kick IMO. but never had a highend gun to really compare it to.

still wouldnt give him 100 for it lol,
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Maybe I need to find one of those venturi bolts for my F4...
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Every now and they they are on ebay, I think all of them are balck, they have an ajustable recock that can be reached throught the center hole on the face of the bolt. turn it all the way down and then 1.5 - 2 turns back out (if I remeber right) Thats a good place to start. I was told most of them shipped turned up all the way.
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