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Old 09-10-2006, 11:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help ID'ing some parts

I've got a handful of parts here that I'd like to get some info on or help identify.

First, an Autococker 3-way. Rather than the normal body-with-shaft design, this has a removable brass insert that threads into the body, then the shaft goes inside the insert. Given the brass innards, I think this might be an old Palmer switch, pre-QuickSwitch (the spacing of the barbs is about the same as a stock 3-way, the QuickSwitch's barbs are much closer together).



Next, and oooold quick-pull style bolt. It works much like a PMI speed demon bolt, but uses the ball bearings to keep it in the back block (pre-2k type block). Pull the back section out, the bearings come in and the bolt slides right out. Slide it back in, push in the back and it's seated again. It's a bit stiff...probably needs a good cleaning & lubing. This will probably go onto my "sleeper" 'cocker just for the nostalgia value.



Next, a nickel LPR. It's a bit longer than stock, but shorter than a Rock. No markings on it, but the knob on the front is made by Dye, though it appears the be standard threading for a Rock knob. Maybe an FPG? I've heard they're pretty much a direct knockoff of the Rock.



Next, another nickel LPR. This one appears to actually be a stock sledge hammer, but with an adjuster cap on it. I vaguely remember seeing one like this in a Bob Long 'Cocker review in APG...probably circa 1997 or 98?



Next (I'm almost done), is a pair of what I think are sizing inserts for the first barrel designed to use such a thing...I think it was made by OTP (probably defunct nowadays)? I think there was also a red one and then a stainless or polished aluminum barrel that they were used with. No markings on them as to their size, so I think it was kind of like the detent rings for Phantoms - just try your paint in the various inserts to see which fit best.



Finally, I have no idea what this is. I think I've seen something like this in the past, but I haven't a clue what it is or what it's used for. The point is very sharp, so it might be used in some way to pierce 12-grams? FWIW, that brass piece with the hex head seems to spin freely.



Thanks for any info that anyone can provide on these items.

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The first reg might be a Shocktech reg with a Dye knob,I had one just like it and it is a direct clone of the Rock
Also you are correct those are OTP barrel inserts
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Also you are correct those are OTP barrel inserts
Thanks for confirming that...now, anyone have need of them? Not having that barrel, they're pretty useless to me. They're actually in good shape, aside from some scuffs from bouncing around the parts box. Free to the first person who PMs me with "OTP inserts" in the subject line a mailing address.
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The second reg is a Sledgehammer, with a Belsales Twister adjustment cap. It more than likely came off an old Evolution Autococker.



The OTP inserts are for an early model G1 barrel. The blue should be .687, and the green should be .683.

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The last item on your list is an on/off from a standard co2 tank.
They're a PITA to take off and replace the o-ring!
Without the rest of the valve, pretty much junk.
I've replaced the o-rings on mine only once in 7 years of use.
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The last item on your list is an on/off from a standard co2 tank.
They're a PITA to take off and replace the o-ring!
Without the rest of the valve, pretty much junk.
I've replaced the o-rings on mine only once in 7 years of use.
Sorry to hijack,,,

What size Oring?
I have a couple of leakers.

I use a 10mm ignition wrench- very thin- to remove the retainer.

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the 3 way is a wgp adjustable (makes timeing it alot easer)

the bolt is a stock sniper 2 bolt


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the 3 way is a wgp adjustable (makes timeing it alot easer)
I don't think the 3 way is a wgp. I know they had the ct3 3 ways and another w/o the knob but it doesn't look like the wgp model

here is my wgp version. the threads are different and unless you aligned yours oddly the threads are on different sides.



the hole pattern is similar with the small holes on the outputs and it could be a wgp but the threads are short enough on yours not to be much help with timing.
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I don't think the 3 way is a wgp. I know they had the ct3 3 ways and another w/o the knob but it doesn't look like the wgp model

here is my wgp version. the threads are different and unless you aligned yours oddly the threads are on different sides.

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the hole pattern is similar with the small holes on the outputs and it could be a wgp but the threads are short enough on yours not to be much help with timing.
No, that insert is oriented exactly the way it threads in. I notice on mine there's more housing on the front end (between the front of the 3-way and the first barb), but not sure what that means. Also, my insert is brass, while yours appears aluminum. Maybe what I have is an earlier version? I don't know of anyone other than WGP and PPS that uses brass in their 3-ways other than the shaft - most aftermarket ones are aluminum and a few are stainless.
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I believe my insert to be brass, it has a few scratches that make it look like it is brass with some sort of coating.
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