Intimidator Help

stimpy · 03-30-2008, 02:31 AM

i picked up an 06 empire for my dad- went through and made sure everything was clean, changed all the micro lines, lubed the hpr/lpr, cleaned the ran sleeve. it has the stock bolt, kila detents (any thoughts on these), and what was described in the ad as a 'prototype eigenram(?)'.
now, with the bolt removed and on dry fire, the marker cycles wonderfully. when i install the bolt, it cylcles and then the bolt appears to get stuck while cycling back into the body from the breach- sometime i can see the o-rings getting snagged. i was pretty sure i was using the correct ones- 115 in the manual (or 15? i'm not sure). if i remove the o-rings the bolt fires fine- sometimes it fires fine with the o-rings on. this is a bolt from another Gen 4. i'm fearing some sort of defect within the body itself, but everything looks clean. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

pizzaluvr · 03-30-2008, 04:06 AM

Most likely you need some lube. Get some DOW 33, available at your local paintball store or online,and apply a small drip to each o-ring. Then rub it around there with your finger. Timmies also like 55, so use that on the parts that don't move(everything but the ram and the bolt). If this doesn't work, try new orings. 115 sounds right, but it could be too big. If your for sure it's 115, and it says it in the manual, then use those. Otherwise I would give 015 a try, which are also tank o-rings.

If that doesn't work, get someone else with a Timmy to let you borrow their bolt just to troubleshoot your gun. If their bolt works(and previously did in there gun) then you know it's the bolt. If it doesn't, you know it's the bolt.

stimpy · 03-30-2008, 04:20 AM

thanks for the info... Dow 55 on the o-ring bolts- will that affect the o-rings?

pizzaluvr · 03-30-2008, 04:35 AM

No, but there could be a chance that your current bolt is messed up. Just to clarify, do not put 55 on any moving o-rings. Put 33 on that. Put some lube on the ram too, that could be your problem as well.. although it's not very likely as you said it cycles fine without the bolt.

Heebs · 03-30-2008, 04:47 AM

Don't put dow on any of the bolt orings, use some oil instead.

Does the bolt have two orings or one?

noelydeeznutz · 03-30-2008, 07:40 AM

dow 55 on EVERY ORING IN THE MARKER EXCEPT THE BOLT

OIL on the bolt...

yes, i felt the need to type that in caps...

15 sounds right for the bolt orings, not 115... id swap those out and see if it makes a difference.

tarakian · 03-30-2008, 09:48 AM

If I recall correctly, manual is incorrect, the o-rings are 015. Also, best lube for the bolt is tri-lube.

noelydeeznutz · 03-30-2008, 07:54 PM

tri-flow

SpinDoctor15 · 03-30-2008, 07:56 PM

I use my Timmy without any o-rings on the bolt. Works great and efficiency is just fine. I'd recommend removing them altogether!

Also, what pressure are you running the LPR at? It seems odd that it wouldn't have enough force to keep the bolt moving back...

Heebs · 03-30-2008, 08:14 PM

Good call spin, the LPR might be a little low.

03-30-2008, 02:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
stimpy MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego CA	Intimidator Help i picked up an 06 empire for my dad- went through and made sure everything was clean, changed all the micro lines, lubed the hpr/lpr, cleaned the ran sleeve. it has the stock bolt, kila detents (any thoughts on these), and what was described in the ad as a 'prototype eigenram(?)'. now, with the bolt removed and on dry fire, the marker cycles wonderfully. when i install the bolt, it cylcles and then the bolt appears to get stuck while cycling back into the body from the breach- sometime i can see the o-rings getting snagged. i was pretty sure i was using the correct ones- 115 in the manual (or 15? i'm not sure). if i remove the o-rings the bolt fires fine- sometimes it fires fine with the o-rings on. this is a bolt from another Gen 4. i'm fearing some sort of defect within the body itself, but everything looks clean. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks. __________________ FEEDBACK MCB evilbay

03-30-2008, 04:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
pizzaluvr Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arkansas	Most likely you need some lube. Get some DOW 33, available at your local paintball store or online,and apply a small drip to each o-ring. Then rub it around there with your finger. Timmies also like 55, so use that on the parts that don't move(everything but the ram and the bolt). If this doesn't work, try new orings. 115 sounds right, but it could be too big. If your for sure it's 115, and it says it in the manual, then use those. Otherwise I would give 015 a try, which are also tank o-rings. If that doesn't work, get someone else with a Timmy to let you borrow their bolt just to troubleshoot your gun. If their bolt works(and previously did in there gun) then you know it's the bolt. If it doesn't, you know it's the bolt. __________________ MCB Feedback +26/-0 PBN Feedback +11/-0 Ought Nine Team Sale, Rapper, Legend, Ions, Vlo's, Magna, Gear I ball for Team Fracture B&E Paintball --- Wild World Paintball

03-30-2008, 04:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
stimpy MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego CA	thanks for the info... Dow 55 on the o-ring bolts- will that affect the o-rings? __________________ FEEDBACK MCB evilbay

03-30-2008, 04:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
pizzaluvr Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arkansas	No, but there could be a chance that your current bolt is messed up. Just to clarify, do not put 55 on any moving o-rings. Put 33 on that. Put some lube on the ram too, that could be your problem as well.. although it's not very likely as you said it cycles fine without the bolt. __________________ MCB Feedback +26/-0 PBN Feedback +11/-0 Ought Nine Team Sale, Rapper, Legend, Ions, Vlo's, Magna, Gear I ball for Team Fracture B&E Paintball --- Wild World Paintball

03-30-2008, 04:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
Heebs Go Cardinals! Join Date: Feb 2007	Don't put dow on any of the bolt orings, use some oil instead. Does the bolt have two orings or one? __________________ Heebs Feedback WWJD? Sell to Heebs.

03-30-2008, 07:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
noelydeeznutz MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2008	dow 55 on EVERY ORING IN THE MARKER EXCEPT THE BOLT OIL on the bolt... yes, i felt the need to type that in caps... 15 sounds right for the bolt orings, not 115... id swap those out and see if it makes a difference. __________________ AbsolutePaintball.net ball till you fall SplatterEffectPaintball the ONLY place to shop PM me for feedback links

03-30-2008, 09:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
tarakian MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Binghamton, NY	If I recall correctly, manual is incorrect, the o-rings are 015. Also, best lube for the bolt is tri-lube.

03-30-2008, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
noelydeeznutz MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2008	tri-flow __________________ AbsolutePaintball.net ball till you fall SplatterEffectPaintball the ONLY place to shop PM me for feedback links

03-30-2008, 07:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
SpinDoctor15 a.k.a. FullSpinPaintball Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I use my Timmy without any o-rings on the bolt. Works great and efficiency is just fine. I'd recommend removing them altogether! Also, what pressure are you running the LPR at? It seems odd that it wouldn't have enough force to keep the bolt moving back... __________________ Jason Spin Doc Spin Doctor's Paintball Page MCB Feedback PBN Feedback PBN Feedback (old) Agglet re: Frink: "Much like a newborn baby your collection is both beautiful and disgusting." russc: "PBN is a business, and that's why they prefer thousands of morons to hundreds of intelligent posters" drum: "Between the ammo shipments and all the long rectangular packages, not to mention regular mail from the Pa. Superior Court, my mailman is pretty sure that I am a freak."

03-30-2008, 08:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Heebs Go Cardinals! Join Date: Feb 2007	Good call spin, the LPR might be a little low. __________________ Heebs Feedback WWJD? Sell to Heebs.

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