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Old 05-11-2008, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts on HPA Tank Filters?

MCB'ers, not having used one in the past I'm curious what your experience with HPA filters - like the AKA Guardian - has been. Is there any real need for them?

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i've always heard that filters were really only needed for CO2, and then only on some guns, but now i'm curious too.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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lets see,
you get your fill form dive shops (a great portion of the time)
this is the air that divers will be breathing.
so to my mind, i would think that the gas mix was pretty clean.
i mean, breath in something you should not at depth and it could be a fatality.
and law suits and so on.
so it would seem that the filters are pretty un-necessary.
unless your in business selling filters...
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lets see,
you get your fill form dive shops (a great portion of the time)
this is the air that divers will be breathing.
so to my mind, i would think that the gas mix was pretty clean.
i mean, breath in something you should not at depth and it could be a fatality.
and law suits and so on.
so it would seem that the filters are pretty un-necessary.
unless your in business selling filters...
that would be true, IF bulk tanks all came from scuba shops, and that only refers to breathable air, not N2 tanks. there are a great many fields that can not either afford to go with a compressor or have no access to drive shops, which means that bulk welding suppliers are the only other option, which means that they deal with pure nitrogen, N2 and not breathable air. since this gas is used as a inert gas for either welding or blowing out lines so that there are no pockets of foreign gas that could be hazardous, it does not have to be "clean".

also, just because a field even has a compressor, who's to say that their bulk storage tanks even are clean?

if you do a lot of travel to fields or just want an ounce of prevention, get a filter and have no worries.

personally, i've been lucky, never had a problem, but it doesn't mean that the next day of play, my reg won't go wonky on me.
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I'd agree with Nobody (hehe). If you know you're getting breathable air, then it's not a big deal to have a filter. However, a lot of fields have their own compressors and if that's the case then you have no idea what their air is like. If the compressor isn't set up right to have a snorkel then it could be sucking in some of it's own exhaust through the intake which would be bad. Or they could not have changed the filters since WWII (I'm pretty sure this is the case with one of the fields near here) in which case they aren't doing anything.

It's probably not a bad idea to have one. It certainly isn't going to hurt anything.
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The shop that I get my tanks filled at has their bulk tanks filled at the local fire station, it's clean breathable air so I have never used a filter
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Just remember, your high flow system will be getting a very low flow choke point...
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Just remember, your high flow system will be getting a very low flow choke point...
True, although the one I'm looking at snaps onto the fill nipple.
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True, although the one I'm looking at snaps onto the fill nipple.
That might inpart slow the filling process possably. Not a bad thing. Though I don't think it would hurt our... Your equipment. Mine like Co2, which the only gun I'd worry about the most if not only, is an Automag.
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