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K_Obeastly 09-25-2006 04:25 PM

wgp commando/ranger, how to tell the difference
 
The other day while hanging out at one of the local stores they let me come into the employee area to look at something online. While I was back there I noticed a zip lock bag with an old nelson style pump. I started going through the bag and putting it together and thought I had found a WGP ranger but now that I examine the pics on vintage rex I am thinking it may have been a commando. I am hoping someone can point out some things to look for that will let me know which it is.

from what I remember I will describe as best I can.
had drilled and tapped holes for a bottomline or stock

had the top drop feed

12 gram changer like the one in the pic below

tappered bolt (it's breach drop the bolt looks more like a cone than the bolt on a phantom)

the biggest thing that made me question it is the screw holes in the side of the body that hold the valve in.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/2671623359.jpg
it had these holes drilled and tapped.

Chefdave 09-25-2006 07:43 PM

The gun pictured has hex screws installed in those drilled and tapped holes. ;)

Rangers and Commandos are similiar in most ways. Biggest differences usually are:

-Grip frame
-Pump style
-Bolt is not velocity adjustable
-Body does not have a quickstrip slot
-Body (long snub for Rangers and short for Commandos)--early Commandos sometimes had painted brass bodies too

The Commando pictured is a late "transitional" model and has the billet Sniper 1 style grip frame. Older Commandos have a different style frame that is larger and has wooden grips.

Rangers had factory bottomlined frames and "WGP Ranger" and a serial number engraved on the rail.

Painthappy 09-25-2006 10:16 PM

Yes..

The original Commando had the Kodiak Frame... as pictured here:

http://www.vintagerex.com/pics/gunpi...p_commando.jpg

I don't think there were too many of those to be honest before they switched to the "transitional" Commando with the Sniper 1 or sheridan frame. Then they moved to the Ranger all together. So Commando's are harder and harder to come by.

Al Ray 09-26-2006 07:19 PM

So how many Pro 45's were made before WGP started "production" of the commando? And for that matter, with the exception of that fuzzy APG ad that I recal seeing, has anyone actualy seen a pro45?

jhyan 09-26-2006 09:06 PM

My commando had the kodiak frame... and flat pump arms. it is now in the loving hands of CehfDave, and he better be taking care of it! (well, better than I took care of it :ROTFL: )

Chefdave 09-26-2006 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhyan (Post 35738)
My commando had the kodiak frame... and flat pump arms, BEFORE I HACKED IT UP. it is now in the restorative and loving hands of ChefDave, and he better be taking care of it! (well, better than I took care of it :ROTFL: )

Fixed :p

K_Obeastly 09-27-2006 09:31 PM

So I take it that some of the rangers had the holes drilled and tapped on the side of the body for valve placement as well? I just didn't see them on vintagerex that way.

I think it is probably one of Bill Bailey's old guns so theres no telling for sure unless one is experianced with these which I am not. For those that read APG Bill is almost waldo, look through an issue and you will probably find him in there.

Dave did you get my email reply on the bushy? I tried just replying with yahoo mail but not sure if it worked out too well.

Al Ray 09-28-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

So I take it that some of the rangers had the holes drilled and tapped on the side of the body for valve placement as well?
As far as I know, yes


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