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Old 09-25-2006, 11:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I give up, Sniper is being poopy, please help!

Gun in question: Aftermarket Sniper II
Problem: added a buch of aftermarket parts, now valve does not work.

#1 Yes I put it back together correctly
#2 Yes I have a cocker valve tool
#3 yes it worked before I monkeyed with it
#4 yes I feel like a total noob right now and my hat is in hand (with a live grenade! )

Full Details: 2k KAPP cocker converted to pump status. Valve leaked a bit. Nothing on/in her is stock anymore. Installed an 'AKA knock off' valve kit and she doesn't want to fire. (Using PMI Pure Energy HPA) I do NOT have a regulator on the gun.

Symptom: She cocks back fine. I pull trigger, sear releases hammer into valve stem and 'clank' sounds like dry fire! Valve does not open up (weird!). I do a sample diagnostic: screw in cocking rod into hammer, place it on valve stem and GENTLY tap with hammer - NOTHING!!! No pop. It acts like the hammer never even touches the valve, acts like it is caught up on something, but it is not.
I am completely stimeyed.
Any words of wisdom?
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R

ps I sold the old valve to raise money for the spalttys so I can't re-install to diagnose the valve.

Possible solution: Need a regulator to reduce pressure in valve because HP tank is malfunctioning too much high output?!

What regulator should I get?
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How about just trying the valve that came with it?

even if it does leak it will show you were the problems might be?
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ps I sold the old valve to raise money for the spalttys so I can't re-install to diagnose the valve.
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I don't know how to help you, but if you do get a reg, make it an AKA sidewinder or a CP shorty reg. Good stuff.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I would degas the gun do the cocking rod in the hammer and feel if you are opening the valve or not. Most likely you will need a reg on it. I used ANS valves and they would not work over 500psi. If you are using a P/E high pressure tank your out put is in the 800 to 900psi range.
As for a reg you need to get something with low out put like in the 200 to 300psi range. CP reg, ANS, Dye, Bob Long
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it's very simple the combination of the gas pressure and the valve spring is simply too much for the main spring and hammer to overcome.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, especially if it's a tornado knock-off. There's no way you can run that straight off a tank. Any reg will do...I like WGP stock regs for general purpose regulation.
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THANKS!!!
Anyone got a reg to sell?
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Yeah, especially if it's a tornado knock-off. There's no way you can run that straight off a tank. Any reg will do...I like WGP stock regs for general purpose regulation.
Interestingly, I have a genuine Tornado valve in a 2k 'cocker and it cycles just fine without a reg...I have no idea what the velocity's like, though. I just got a PPS Fatty for it, but haven't installed it yet - gotta take the grip frame off 'cause the elbow keeps hitting the trigger guard.
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I second the reg, AKA valves are designed for LP operation. Since you areent concerned with ROF, almost any 1/2 decent reg will do. Used CP and AA regs can be had for a low price these days, just look around.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:00 AM   #10 (permalink)
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PM sent on reg

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