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P4p3Rc1iP 09-27-2006 06:47 PM

Another "Lightest gun ever", but still somewhat interesting.
 
The new Invert Mini from Empire.

Aparantly, it's a blow forward with a somewhat other layout than we're used to.

Here's a pic of it (and a hot chick)

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1917_17316328


Aparantly, the pneumatics are inside the trigger frame and the electronics in th front grip.
My guess is that only the reg is in the front grip and the valve and bolt are still inside the body.


Funny think is that I actually made up a design somewhat like this a while ago, before I ever heard of the gun.

Now I've been thinking a bit more about it, but couldn't one make it even smaller by putting the valve in the trigger frame aswell. I guess the reg would than take up too much space, but you can put the reg on some other place if you want to. (In the front grip together with electronics, or without electronics for an even smaller design.). Now combine this with a vertical trap door (Since all the air is comming from below the body, you might aswell let the balls enter the body from the back via a 90* elbow, or even straight for a Qloader or warp). A vertical trapdoor would make the body no bigger than 2 or paintballs in length. You'd save about 2-3" in overall lenght, plus it would make the gun very light with hardly any kick (No bolt moving, just the paintball itself)!

Shiba-Kun 09-27-2006 06:53 PM

Nice find.

I was expecting a Splatmaster or something similar, just going by your title.:D

Drum 09-27-2006 07:30 PM

That chick is a MAN, baby!

I knew him in prison... his name is Scotty.

:huh:

HTRN 09-27-2006 07:34 PM

Some details - it's a electronic blowforward, the electronics are indeed in the foregrip, the only reg in the gun is the bottomline, all air passages are internal, and it's made from almost all aluminum.

BTW, It's small enough to be hidden inside an Ion body. Small does not adaquetely describe it.


HTRN

dann 09-27-2006 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drum (Post 36217)
That chick is a MAN, baby!

I knew him in prison... his name is Scotty.

No kidding! You could crack walnuts with that chin...:hammer:

-Dan

eric 09-27-2006 07:50 PM

wait theres a gun in that picture:p

P4p3Rc1iP 09-27-2006 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HTRN (Post 36220)
Some details - it's a electronic blowforward, the electronics are indeed in the foregrip, the only reg in the gun is the bottomline, all air passages are internal, and it's made from almost all aluminum.

BTW, It's small enough to be hidden inside an Ion body. Small does not adaquetely describe it.


HTRN

I'm not sure I understand correctly. The ASA doubles as a reg? The valve is inside the grip? Than why, if the body only holds a bolt, is it still so big?

doc Zox 09-27-2006 10:40 PM

http://premium1.uploadit.org/docZox//mini.jpg

knightmare96 09-27-2006 11:01 PM

Where I am interested in the idea of a new electonic Blow forward, and That does indeed seem quite small, I have to share Doc Nickels Rant on making guns smaller.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/9013/...2C+an+elf-%21-

HTRN 09-28-2006 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightmare96 (Post 36361)
Where I am interested in the idea of a new electonic Blow forward.

Something you might find interesting.


HTRN


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