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Old 06-28-2008, 05:48 PM   #41 (permalink)
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so the air burst is 90% directed towards a very bottom edge with a small center port.

The location of the venturi holes being higher up on the face of the bolt could make a significant difference on initial forces on the paint.
Which is the assertion in the first reponse to this thread

Just to take things on a slight tangent, all this talk about the effect of dimples on a golf ball miss something ... they are all talking about the golf ball in a high rotation, high velocity state traveling through the air. There are other points at which the dimples may have a different effect, and such could relate to paintballs -- I'm thinking the first moments of acceleration and rotation from a standstill.

CP: Try taking off the "front" of the barrel next time and see if that does anything. I am thinking that even if the ball does not actually touch the sides of the "front" (which is far from a given), the air charge will have a chance to equalize around the ball and return it more to a "normal" level of spin and in-barrel trajectory (on snap, did we just start talking about a ball's trajectory within a barrel?).
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Old 06-28-2008, 06:05 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have to agree that what you did hardly can be compared to the other channeled out low blow bolts that are available out there. You certainly can't call this one busted on the basis of what you've used so far.
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Someone sell me a Cooper T Better Bolt for the autococker and ill test it out

or tell me how wide and deep the channel is and ill make one
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:58 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I have a Cooper-T cocker bolt I'm willing to loan for a test. I need it back as I want to use it in a project I'm working on. Let me know if you'd like to test it.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:06 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I have to agree that what you did hardly can be compared to the other channeled out low blow bolts that are available out there. You certainly can't call this one busted on the basis of what you've used so far.
how?

all the backspinbolts shown so far seem to have more area above the middle of the bolt than our backspin bolts?

plus, shouldn't we see SOMETHING with our "almost backspin bolt"?

i mean lets look at this realistically people ...

HP, send me your gun, setup the way you use it - and ill test it.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:37 PM   #46 (permalink)
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i think everyone is looking at this realistically by stating that there is still tests that should be done and not just shut the door and call it case closed. i think you have a lot more work to do before you can make a final call.
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i think everyone is looking at this realistically by stating that there is still tests that should be done and not just shut the door and call it case closed. i think you have a lot more work to do before you can make a final call.
whats to be tested?

i hate to break it to you guys, but you sound like a bunch of PBNers when we posted the "do shockers really shoot farther" myth over on PBN. they couldn't come up with any reason but still protested the test results. oddly enough, after a 20 odd page thread, they learned why the barrel is not a variable ...

i have an honast to god cooperT bolt in the mail for me, so we will test that, just for you guys.

will that be good enough?

also, if anyone happens to have a spare pre 2k back block and would lend it to me that would be cool. otherwise, i have paypal too.
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I have a Cooper-T cocker bolt I'm willing to loan for a test. I need it back as I want to use it in a project I'm working on. Let me know if you'd like to test it.
send it to me unless you can test it

im curious to know if what HP lovecraft says is true

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i have an honast to god cooperT bolt in the mail for me, so we will test that, just for you guys.

will that be good enough?
no you need to tell us your testing procedures

Psi springing barrel bore ball bore

so we can test those variables as well, so we can properly falsify your clams using the same procedures
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send it to me unless you can test it

im curious to know if what HP lovecraft says is true


no you need to tell us your testing procedures

Psi springing barrel bore ball bore

so we can test those variables as well, so we can properly falsify your clams using the same procedures
what?

what does Operating Pressure have anything to do with anything?

Springs?

i have stated over and over the barrel and bore setup.



explain to me how the springs i use effect the spin in my barrel - go!
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