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[Critical]

I just picked up my first Mag, God, I'm in love with it just from the pictures! Anyway, I have 2 LP 68/4500 air tanks, I was going to convert the LP tanks to the Myth regulator from Guerrilla Air, but I want to make sure they can keep up with the Mag before I drop any $ on something that won't work. If anyone has any comments, suggestions or advise, I would like to hear it.

[Whee McGee]

Myth regs are set at 650psi, aren't they? If I remember right, Mags really need around 850psi or better to work, so a Myth would starve your Mag. I'd suggest a Crossfire reg, best recharge rate around, but all you need is something that can output 850+ psi, and you should be fine.

[TrojanMan]

^ Agree. Crossfires are the best screw-in preset regs around IMHO and they work great on Mags.

I'm not sure you'll be able to find just the regulator so you might be better off selling a tank and buying a new one. For reference, a 68/4500 on a stock classic valve with acceptable paint/barrel match will get you a reliable 850 shots on a full tank. A 45/45 will get you around 550. (for other sizes, figure about 13 shots per cuin)

Note that you won't be able to shoot the tank much below 1 ksi. Theoretically a Mag can shoot all the way down to the chamber operating pressure - about 400-500 psi depending on paint, barrel and velocity - but in practice, the recharge rate gets so low that the performance is terrible once you get under about 800 input.

There have been some people who will gut the regulator and use an LP tank with an external regulator for velocity control but I really can't recommend doing that. The 'Mag valve is one of the best regulators around so you might as well use it.


Lastly, if you want to invest in a good-quality adjustable tank reg (Nitroduck and MaxFlo make good ones as well as an old AGD Flatline if you can find it), it's money well-spent. It's not really important to have adjustability unless you've got a reactive valve (RTP, E-, X-, etc.) but it won't hurt and you'll be able to use the tank/reg for double-duty on other guns.

[pk5]

You should be able to find the cp reg used on automags.org or on pbnation.

or if you want a new reg:

this one is great: Automags.Org Online Forums - High Pressure Output up to 1200 PSi and Adjustable ANS Regs For Sale

and it can go to any custom psi, so you can get a super high psi just for the mag, anything 900 psi and above will give you pretty snappy trigger.

[Critical]

Both tanks have Crossfire LP regs on them now. Would I be better off to just sell them and use the money to get an HP tank? Think I could trade these two LP tanks for one HP tank?

Originally Posted by pk5

You should be able to find the cp reg used on automags.org or on pbnation.

or if you want a new reg:

this one is great: Automags.Org Online Forums - High Pressure Output up to 1200 PSi and Adjustable ANS Regs For Sale

and it can go to any custom psi, so you can get a super high psi just for the mag, anything 900 psi and above will give you pretty snappy trigger.

Hmm, have you used those regs yourself? I could probably sell off one tank to pay for the reg and install on the other tank.

[pk5]

No i have not uses the ANS reg, even though some people on AO really like them.

All of mine have CP - HP reg on them, except for 1, so i don't really need it.

I think the tank are more valuable than the reg though, so someone would be in for a nice deal if you want to trade a tank for a reg.

Other than that, if you are willing to go with a reg that require a cradle i got 1 for free if you are willing to pay shipping.

It is the adjustable reg from Air America Raptor Rex, work great and give youa snappy trigger on the mag....the problem is of course that it require a cradle or a remote line to use with the mag.

[usagi_tetsu]

If you're looking to replace regs, you can still find Centerflag's products online. Their last screw in, the 420SV, was great as you could replace the o-ring lip if it became damaged and it comes with a venting slide check. The other option is their DynaFlow, which is an adjustable, so you can increase the pressure and increase the RT capabilities of your 'mag's on/off.

[alkafluence]

Originally Posted by Critical

Both tanks have Crossfire LP regs on them now. Would I be better off to just sell them and use the money to get an HP tank? Think I could trade these two LP tanks for one HP tank?

Crossfire will take your tank and swap the reg from the blue/450 to the red/850 as part of their reg swap program. I would contact them directly. It costs about 60 bucks plus return shipping. Remember the most expensive part of a compressed air setup is the actual tank itself.

[WickedKlown2]

I talked to the owner of Guerilla Air while at Oklahoma D-Day 2008... He said he had a replacement spring that would bring the Myth Reg up to 1K PSI... He is going to drop ship me one of those springs for my Myth to use on my Mag... So when you order your Myth Reg. make sure you ask for a 1K spring...

I hope this helps out...

[Critical]

Originally Posted by alkafluence

Crossfire will take your tank and swap the reg from the blue/450 to the red/850 as part of their reg swap program. I would contact them directly. It costs about 60 bucks plus return shipping. Remember the most expensive part of a compressed air setup is the actual tank itself.

I thought I read on their site that they didn't swap out due to the different colored bodies. I'll have to go back and re-read, maybe it'll soak in this time.

Originally Posted by WickedKlown2

I talked to the owner of Guerilla Air while at Oklahoma D-Day 2008... He said he had a replacement spring that would bring the Myth Reg up to 1K PSI... He is going to drop ship me one of those springs for my Myth to use on my Mag... So when you order your Myth Reg. make sure you ask for a 1K spring...

I hope this helps out...

Hmm...I could definitely swap one bottle just for the MAg with the 1k spring. Something to keep in mind, Thanks.