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Old 07-19-2008, 02:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Double barreled mech ion question

Would this design for a double barreled mech Ion be feasible? What problems would I run into?

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Old 07-19-2008, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think flow balancing may be a problem. Since the components are not strictly identical, IE line length, wear, etc. One side may fire first, causing loss of pressure on the other. You may need to stick a couple of flow controls in there to ballance it out.

However not being entirely sure how ions fire, I would give it a try just as you have done it, you can always pop in the flow controls later.
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Old 07-19-2008, 12:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What I was thinking was using 1/8th NPT hose into a splitter with couplers straight onto the donuts, the same treatment into the pneumatic switch, with one output going towards a splitter right next tot he QEV's. The stainless braided hose would be there to increase post-regulator volume so you wouldn't be so prone to shootdown during sustained fire. I'm actually planning on making a double barreled mech Ion rifle. I'd be using the regulator on a mag ASA with two outputs, the first heading towards the rear banjo only, and the other supplying the switch and the front of the bolts.

And I think he drew this up more like a wiring diagram than anything else.
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Yeah, I was just curious if the base concept would work, as the only multi barreled Ions I've seen were electro. I did it at 1AM so it came out not so nice, but its basically right.

Would there be any disadvantage to running something like braided hose after the reg? Say that all of your hoses needed to be external anyway, could you theoretically use braided hose (or other large diameter tubing) for everything and have no problems other than size?
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Well most of the switches you would use would require couplers, recharge rate won't become an issue over an electro one since those fittings are the same size used exclusively in the electro ones anyway. The hoses might just be a tiny bit difficult to route and have them look clean, but that's the only real disadvantage I can think of.
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Actually I thought it was quite a good circuit layout. Most people would not have bothered to pick up drawings of the fittings. Nice job

My comment was that you may need flow controls to compensate for differences between the two markers you are hooking together, different internal parts, differing age, different flow characteristics, difference in physical line length after the t's when you actually assemble it ( not based on your drawing).

A flow controls will allow you to compensate for these small variations if they become a problem.
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I was thinking with QEV's and dual tail o-ring bolts, the dwell would be the same on both sides regardless of the air line lengths.

I would like to know the results when you finish.

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how is this going so far?
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Still waiting on a ton of parts. I have all the fittings I need, but I'm still waiting on another breach, bolt, and QEV. If I just had another dual tail O-ring bolt I could test the concept with my brother's epiphany, but its a no go until then.

I am pretty excited to try this so as to fire both barrels on each pull and release of the trigger.
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That is soo cool!

Be sure to let us know when you get those parts. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
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