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Old 07-20-2008, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a few questions. First is there any difference in proformance between the VSC style 12 gram, the sc 12 gram, and the drop out 12 gram changers as far as effiency goes? Also is there a difference in proformance between the stock pump and a undercocking kit?
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Yes, dropout's/sc do much better in efficiency than a VSC setup. Expect ~40 shots. With a VSC expect ~25.
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I personally hated the stock pump, but I accept the fact that it works even if you never decide to upgrade it.

I much prefer anything aftermarket pumpwise, go for Rainman's pump kit if you can afford to, it's simply the best choice. If you're limited, try a wevo pump kit, but you might not like it because the pump on it is kinda small and also twists a bit.
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Wevo's pump would be perfect if they made it in two options. Fat OD for freaks, and normal OD for stock barrels and other phantom barrels.

I like the stock handle honestly. Just make sure you use the nut to tighten it down and keep it strait.
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Yes, dropout's/sc do much better in efficiency than a VSC setup. Expect ~40 shots. With a VSC expect ~25.
I have never seen a VSC do that poorly, how certain are you of that number? I got 30-35 good shots from my VSC depending on temperature before bobbing my valve, chronoing at ~275 fps.
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2-3 shots difference between the two different setup, not really a cause for concern.
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I have never seen a VSC do that poorly, how certain are you of that number? I got 30-35 good shots from my VSC depending on temperature before bobbing my valve, chronoing at ~275 fps.
Sorry that was a bad number. I posted the low of the VSC range and the high of the Dropout's.
From what i've seen/ read dropouts get about 35-40, Most VSC owners claim about 30ish+. I don't agree with that number, I get 25 good shots out of mine.
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