Phantom questions

icdpaintballer · 07-20-2008, 06:28 PM

I have a few questions. First is there any difference in proformance between the VSC style 12 gram, the sc 12 gram, and the drop out 12 gram changers as far as effiency goes? Also is there a difference in proformance between the stock pump and a undercocking kit?
Thanks in advance

Nyx3d · 07-20-2008, 08:51 PM

Yes, dropout's/sc do much better in efficiency than a VSC setup. Expect ~40 shots. With a VSC expect ~25.

icdpaintballer · 07-20-2008, 10:08 PM

Thank you

Ir0nExpress · 07-22-2008, 03:18 AM

I personally hated the stock pump, but I accept the fact that it works even if you never decide to upgrade it.

I much prefer anything aftermarket pumpwise, go for Rainman's pump kit if you can afford to, it's simply the best choice. If you're limited, try a wevo pump kit, but you might not like it because the pump on it is kinda small and also twists a bit.

Cunha · 07-22-2008, 03:33 AM

Wevo's pump would be perfect if they made it in two options. Fat OD for freaks, and normal OD for stock barrels and other phantom barrels.

I like the stock handle honestly. Just make sure you use the nut to tighten it down and keep it strait.

idkfa · 07-22-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyx3d

Yes, dropout's/sc do much better in efficiency than a VSC setup. Expect ~40 shots. With a VSC expect ~25.

I have never seen a VSC do that poorly, how certain are you of that number? I got 30-35 good shots from my VSC depending on temperature before bobbing my valve, chronoing at ~275 fps.

Rayodder · 07-22-2008, 02:08 PM

2-3 shots difference between the two different setup, not really a cause for concern.

Nyx3d · 07-22-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by idkfa

I have never seen a VSC do that poorly, how certain are you of that number? I got 30-35 good shots from my VSC depending on temperature before bobbing my valve, chronoing at ~275 fps.

Sorry that was a bad number. I posted the low of the VSC range and the high of the Dropout's.
From what i've seen/ read dropouts get about 35-40, Most VSC owners claim about 30ish+. I don't agree with that number, I get 25 good shots out of mine.

07-20-2008, 06:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
icdpaintballer Active Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island	Phantom questions I have a few questions. First is there any difference in proformance between the VSC style 12 gram, the sc 12 gram, and the drop out 12 gram changers as far as effiency goes? Also is there a difference in proformance between the stock pump and a undercocking kit? Thanks in advance __________________ "Can you imagine what paintball would be like if the Gardner Bros. had never been involved? Just think of all the fun we would have had." MAER9

07-20-2008, 10:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
icdpaintballer Active Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island	Thank you __________________ "Can you imagine what paintball would be like if the Gardner Bros. had never been involved? Just think of all the fun we would have had." MAER9

07-22-2008, 03:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ir0nExpress Back to paintball. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York	I personally hated the stock pump, but I accept the fact that it works even if you never decide to upgrade it. I much prefer anything aftermarket pumpwise, go for Rainman's pump kit if you can afford to, it's simply the best choice. If you're limited, try a wevo pump kit, but you might not like it because the pump on it is kinda small and also twists a bit. __________________ MCarterBrown Feedback (+112/-0) Automags.org Feedback (+16/-0) Pbnation Feedback(+16/-0)

07-22-2008, 03:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Cunha Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monterey, CA	Wevo's pump would be perfect if they made it in two options. Fat OD for freaks, and normal OD for stock barrels and other phantom barrels. I like the stock handle honestly. Just make sure you use the nut to tighten it down and keep it strait. __________________ "...as if adding zeroes could produce a sum"

07-22-2008, 02:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rayodder I have a Phantom Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Richmond, British Columbia	2-3 shots difference between the two different setup, not really a cause for concern. __________________ $$$ trumps dibs every single time!!! MCB Feedback

07-20-2008, 08:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nyx3d MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Yes, dropout's/sc do much better in efficiency than a VSC setup. Expect ~40 shots. With a VSC expect ~25.

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