Paintball

[Quacker]

So, I have to ask:

Does your field allow Ramping during open/rec play?

Is there a BPS cap?

Does your field allow RT Triggers?

If you answered No and then Yes, don't you find that really weird?

I personally find there is a weird double standard, in that RT triggers are accepted where ramping is frowned upon. This is both in the rules and in people's personal standards. There were a couple of people at the field last Sunday complaining about tournament players playing with electronic guns (which could be turned to semi auto very easily) when they were firing RT triggers doing AT LEAST 17 bps. Like somehow they were the good guys because, while they could rip somebody in half with paintballs, their guns happened to be mechanical (which also meant basically uncontrollable). The joke was on them because while they had tons of firepower, they were pretty poor players. Still, you can really hurt somebody at 17 bps, especially with the generally super twitchy RT trigger. The fights can get pretty close, especially in the woods.

[hank_k]

My biggest issue with the few guns I've toyed with that had RTs, was that I often couldn't JUST shoot one ball. A quick pull to the trigger was usually good for one shot, but all too often is was a big brrrrrappppppt of three balls or two, or maybe one and a bunch of noise, but it wasn't consistent enough for me to be comfortable with.

[lonegunmen]

Ya, weird eh?
We allow and rent RT tippmann's, yet I fear for the players when I hear 3 rnd burst,ramping,even full auto.(Which isn't allowed...)
But we put RT's in the hands of renters !

[Mayvik]

The fields I played in in CA were semi only, no modes unless you were doing tourney speedball skirmishes and such, no RT, no nothing. Thanks to my stuipd job (hooray OT due to slackers) I have only played once in CO and it was a scenario which allowed RT, cranks, 12bps ramping, but no full auto.

RT has given mechanical full auto a bad name. ATS guns and SMGs have a very reasonable rate of fire in full auto and when you want to stop pulling the trigger you stop shooting. For people who know when and how to full auto, it really mucks things up with all the tools wanting to run around playing Rambo.

People play paintball like it's Quake and you have to shoot someone 3000 times before they die.

[ThePixelGuru]

Hmm, I usually see it the other way around, where ramping is allowed but not RT.

Personally I like RT better, I feel like I have more control over it. I don't think it's the trigger so much as the player, though; some people have good trigger control, others don't. The ones who don't usually don't try or care, though. For that reason I feel like all fields should just mandate true semi.

[Sir Brass]

The scenarios I play at disallow ALL non-semi forms of firing: ramping, full auto, RT, etc. If you have an RT, you're instructed to turn it down low enough that you can't sweet-spot it, and if you don't and are caught firing effective full auto then you're in trouble. ATS gun-toters are told to keep it to semi only as well.

And the fields I play at are indoor places.....no modes allowed either.

[Clearush]

Nope the scenarios and fields I play just cap at 15 bps for rec ballers and don't worry about modes and such.

[Horizon]

We don't allow RT Triggers.

Also don't allow ramping, bursts or anything else that isn't true semi.

Even someone shooting true semi, but shooting at a high ROF, we often ask them to tone it down. Although that's not much of an issue at our field.

[HP_Lovecraft]

My experience is most fields do not allow modes, or reactive triggers, BUT DO NOT ENFORCE.

Basically, typical rec fields use the honor system. You chrono your own gun, and you stick to semi-auto only. Refs do not have the time, or skill to actually inspect every gun.

But you still have idiots who crank up the guns to 330fps, and idiots who use cheat modes, and excessive reactive triggers.

Reactive triggers are fairly hard to enforce to begin with. When PROPERLY setup, they do not go full/auto. Its just a semi/auto with a snappy trigger. What if its borderline?

Generally, the RT Tippmanns never bothered me because whenever I saw kids using them, it usually resulted in a sliced paintball, making a mess out of there gun.

So, some fields have resorted to a "dont ask, dont tell" sort of policy. Seems like a way to avoid having to piss off the paying customers maybe?

[Harbinger[TG]]

I was doing a MXS scenario at Old River a few years ago that allowed Full Auto and RT, but no Ramping. One of the most illogical things I have ever seen. So I had to go eyes off at 12bps ramp all weekend because I only brought one gun. It had 2 modes; ramp, and eyebypass capped ramp. Good thing I was XO for one side as I had to ask the producers and field owners for permission after explaining there is no real difference.