Palmers RVA is Crap!

Dawg047 · 08-28-2008, 01:37 AM

Ok, I got a Palmers RVA from them about 2 weeks ago. When I got it, it was plastic. Well, it seemed like it would work. Well, now, I have cocked the marker about 20 times and the RVA is wiggling back and the hole for the frame screw is stripping. Now I am thinking, there is no way it should be plastic, it just won't work. Are these plastic? In the picture, it sure is glossy and metal looking and also has a Minus and Plus sign. Mine does not. Man, for $28.50 after shipping, I have a useless piece of plastic. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Harbinger[TG] · 08-28-2008, 01:40 AM

Palmers has great Customer Service, I would call them tomorrow and ask.

oggfueler · 08-28-2008, 01:47 AM

You'd be better off calling PPS than ranting here. I'm sure they'll get you fixed up.

Frink · 08-28-2008, 01:49 AM

The olds ones were metal, The ones from the last 6-8 months are plastic. My SS has a plastic one and it's held up extremely well, maybe yours had some defects. Give them a call and explain, I'm sure they'll help you out.

BenoitOWN · 08-28-2008, 02:03 AM

I wonder why they changed something that worked well in metal to plastic still.

c6quad · 08-28-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BenoitOWN

I wonder why they changed something that worked well in metal to plastic still.

cost... not to mention saving wear on tooling to make them... if they're made in house.

Chefdave · 08-28-2008, 03:10 AM

IIRC they have switched a few parts from AL to milled Delrin. I don't care for the new parts myself especially for the price of a PPS marker.

AL parts = more expensive raw material, harder on tooling, need to be annoed
Delrin parts = cheaper raw material, easier on tooling, no anno required

noxx55 · 08-28-2008, 03:14 AM

Aluminum is not that hard on tooling. Anno can get expensive as well as the laser engraving and I think the biggest factor you are leaving out is time. Aluminum will take longer to manufacture than delrin. On top of the fact that if these are being sent to an outsourced machinist, I can tell you first hand that large orders have to be made, they don't always come out correct, and can take forever to have made.

PS, raw acetyl (delrin) and raw aluminum stock are just about the same price. At least where I shop for it. And I get aluminum by the pound.

WilD · 08-28-2008, 10:32 AM

This is great news, the old PPS guns will now be worth more since it is now impossible to buy a good one new. The quality has been slipping for a while now.

+1 to the NHWPPSC

THE-SHOOTIST · 08-28-2008, 11:44 AM

It's not plastic, it's a "Space-Age Polymer that's Stronger than Steel".
(plastic)

08-28-2008, 01:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dawg047 Active Member Join Date: May 2006	RVA Problems Ok, I got a Palmers RVA from them about 2 weeks ago. When I got it, it was plastic. Well, it seemed like it would work. Well, now, I have cocked the marker about 20 times and the RVA is wiggling back and the hole for the frame screw is stripping. Now I am thinking, there is no way it should be plastic, it just won't work. Are these plastic? In the picture, it sure is glossy and metal looking and also has a Minus and Plus sign. Mine does not. Man, for $28.50 after shipping, I have a useless piece of plastic. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Last edited by Dawg047; 08-28-2008 at 03:03 PM..

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WilD the MilD MOD Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Motor City	This is great news, the old PPS guns will now be worth more since it is now impossible to buy a good one new. The quality has been slipping for a while now. +1 to the NHWPPSC __________________ PGPOG #79 POG #1055 My Feedback

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08-28-2008, 01:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
oggfueler Active Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: maui,hi	You'd be better off calling PPS than ranting here. I'm sure they'll get you fixed up.

08-28-2008, 02:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
BenoitOWN Paintball Fox Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada, QC	I wonder why they changed something that worked well in metal to plastic still.

08-28-2008, 03:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
Chefdave Karate Monkey Deathcar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbia, MO	IIRC they have switched a few parts from AL to milled Delrin. I don't care for the new parts myself especially for the price of a PPS marker. AL parts = more expensive raw material, harder on tooling, need to be annoed Delrin parts = cheaper raw material, easier on tooling, no anno required

08-28-2008, 11:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
THE-SHOOTIST MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006	It's not plastic, it's a "Space-Age Polymer that's Stronger than Steel". (plastic)