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Old 11-27-2006, 02:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Thompson (TommyGun) Style Drum Magazine Loaders?

I brought this topic up on the old MCB, but forgot where exactly we got with it.


Just wondering if anyone has ever tried making a Drum Loaded Magazine System for paintball markers. With the invention of the Q-Loader, i figure why can't a Short n Stubby (wide) version be made? Also, some elements of the AT10, and AT85's belt clip track system could be implemented.

Basically, something similar (maybe just in looks) to a Tommy Gun or Light Sub-Machine Gun with under or side mounted drum magazines.



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Old 11-27-2006, 02:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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in my searching; The Destroyer? - http://www.warpig.com/paintball/arti...unkyguns.shtml


Guess a SMG or some such kinda marker would be best suited for such a project - open breech and such.


more search results; http://www.rap4.com/paintball/forum/...ic,1473.0.html

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Old 11-27-2006, 07:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I remember there were aftermarket drum loaders for SMGs.

Or, maybe they were just homebrew custom stuff...

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Old 11-27-2006, 08:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I just remember homebrew stuff for SMiG-60's . . . barry's setup used individual little aluminum 'casings' for each paintball

frontal area was pretty big, and reloading it was cumbersome
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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in my searching; The Destroyer? - http://www.warpig.com/paintball/arti...unkyguns.shtml


Guess a SMG or some such kinda marker would be best suited for such a project - open breech and such.


more search results; http://www.rap4.com/paintball/forum/...ic,1473.0.html
Destroyer was a 'vaporgun' it never existed as anything more than the mock-up seen in that ad. From what I have gathered the makers snapped up a bunch of pre-order cash and then disappeared leaving a bunch of ppl SOL.

There were some home brew drums for the SMG.

Problem seems to be that you can't exert a whole lot of pressure on paintballs that would be required to feed them through the spiral of a drum magazine the way you can a bullet.

Here's a bit of brainstorming (brainfarting?) on the idea. Use a system similiar to the warp feed. Two large discs feeding the balls through a spiral core. Might be more efficient space wise to come up with a system with balls being fed through two or three spirals. (to avoid having a skinny drum with a large -target- face area) That would require some sort of toggle at the feed that alternated the feed from the different spiral columns OR a clutch in the disk drives that only drove a column once the previous column had run dry. The latter would probably prove to be the best system if it could be made to be reliable. But clutches tend to be a weak link any any mechanical system.

Could the Q-loader be made to look more like a drum? Probably

Have we seen the last big innovation in feed systems? I doubt it.
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Old 11-27-2006, 02:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Weltman and Repo have a picture of a SMG with a drum from a tour of the Tippy factory not too long ago (last year or the year before...maybe a little earlier).

We ran this one round in circles last year.... I eventually decided screw it and I was going to try and make a grav feed pan loader.... never got anywhere past paper as it was a pia to load.

It can be done.... think clock spring and a good follower. Also if you cut a spiral groove into two discs then you have a track for the balls to feed along.... go from there!

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Old 11-27-2006, 02:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Proto type " Destroyer" is sitting 30 min's from EMR.


and it is a solid object not a Vapor.




We tried to get it . . . very hard
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Old 11-27-2006, 02:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Did you flex muscles or your wallet?

Someone have a pic? I remember the USI Destroyer that was the sabot canon... but not this other Destroyer you speak of.

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Old 11-27-2006, 09:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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We need pictures of that for shure^

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Weltman and Repo have a picture of a SMG with a drum from a tour of the Tippy factory not too long ago (last year or the year before...maybe a little earlier
Your talking about the SMG prototype

There is also a warp feed type setup that someone made for a 68 special, but IIRC bugs were not worked out of it.

Drum feed is VERY posssible but would require a whole new gun to be fabricated. Ive got some ideas on this and hope to delve into them some more after my Henry/winchester project (my current build) and a few other misc things Ive got going on are finished.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Has anyone ever thought of indexing the paintballs like they are in a real drum loader? Other than in a spiral that is.

Hmmm too much thinking.. not enough packing...
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