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Old 01-12-2007, 02:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There is also the daystar, essentially an autospirit body setup to be a bump. It has autococker barrel threads, and Steven Cunha wants one.
I have a Grey Spirit body that Colin tapped for Autococker threaded barrels. I was going to build some kind of Frankenpump with it but haven't pursued the project. It came from TerryG3 a year or two ago. I'd be happy to trade it for some parts that I need, like a LAPCO site rail or rear tapped Nelson valve body...

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Old 01-12-2007, 03:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Another difference between a spirit and a ghost that you may not notice just from hearing the technical differences.

The spirits will double feed if you dont pump them with the rythm your supposed to, since theres no step up to the barrel like on a breech drop gun. You just learn to pump correctly.

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Old 01-12-2007, 04:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey.. yeah.. I picked up a prototype spirit body from TerryG3 a long time ago too... Heck, I think it's just banging around on my floor.. ugh... sad to say but true.

Was an interesting design actually.
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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As stated the main difference is where the ball drops into the gun, either the breech or the bore. If I can get the pictures to load I will post some drawings of what that means...
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ok... so what's the better marker overall, or does it simply reside with personal preference?

Also, pics of the Auto-Spirit?


Heard and seen the Daystar... Cocker Barrel threads may prove a more versital asset. How many o those were made?
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Heard and seen the Daystar... Cocker Barrel threads may prove a more versital asset. How many o those were made?
i think the one Carter has is the only one.
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i bought my Autospirit from TerryG3 as well and one of my Ghost's that i bought from Dewane was from TerryG3 too.
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Ok... so what's the better marker overall, or does it simply reside with personal preference?
I'd have to say personal preference, though I think with nelson pump markers, bore drop was an unneccessary hype, that only really had the effect of throwing the weight of your feed tube (we didn't have hoppers on those days... and we liked it!) forward.

The point that SI (who I am pretty sure developed bore drop) was trying to make is that the ridge in the breech model was the point of pinching and thus ball breaks. I think that a well machined breech drop never has pinching problems, and breech drop proponents will tell you the breech system will actually allow the ball to bounce up a small amount and in a bore drop this results in ball chopping. Don't know how accurate that is either, but I go with breech as my personal fav, mostly for the balance (look at the two most popular nelson guns that are made today, phantom and buzzard... both breech).

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Are the Grey Ghost and Grey Spirit always unibody?

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Old 01-12-2007, 06:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yes except for a few prototype parts that LAPCO made and, of course, the new Ghost which may or may not exist other than the few that slipped out!
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