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Old 01-17-2007, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Freak barrel inserts: Stainless vs. Aluminum?

What are the primary differences between the Stainless and Aluminum inserts for the Freak barrel?

Is the bore smoother on the stainless?
Are the tolerances tighter?
Are folks concerned about 'damaging' the aluminum ones, since it's a softer metal?
Do the stainless inserts self-clean better?
Are the stainless considered 'better accuracy' than the aluminum?

I've been puzzled by this for a while, any advice is appreciated!
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Aluminum are, of course, a softer metal and can bend easier. They are also color-coded via annodization.
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've got a question myself... are barrel kits even worth the large amounts of money that they cost? When I stopped balling about 5-6 years ago, it seemed like they were just picking up steam...

I know that this topic has been discussed to death... maybe what is needed is a poll.

Edit: to avoid totally thread-jacking, I'll add that stainless steel is not going to scratch as easily as Al and will have a smoother finish that will last longer. It will also be heavier.

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Old 01-17-2007, 06:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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with anodizing, neither should out perfrom the other. while aluminum is softer, I have 2 freaks for a few years + now, and have never bent anything. but some folks would tear up a steel ball, if this is you, don't even buy a freak, but a stainless steel kit of some sort, lol.. and a tippmann... hehe

On autocockers I believe barrel kits are more important than on any other semi auto marker. Because of the closed bolt design the kits will prevent ball roll outs from your barrel...
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've got a question myself... are barrel kits even worth the large amounts of money that they cost? When I stopped balling about 5-6 years ago, it seemed like they were just picking up steam...
For the cost of 3 decent barrels (a small, medium, and large bore), you can get a barrel kit with 3-8 different bores and sometimes different length tips. Also kits save the day when there is freakishly small or large bore paint -- which is one of the few times I crack out my Freak Kit over my Lapcos and Dyes.

If you own one and only one barrel, a kit seems like a large expense. Once you start getting different bore sizes, it's not much different.
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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As to steel vs. alum.... I remember hearing that there were some tolerance issues with a run of the steel kits and the inserts were very hard to get out of the barrel back..if they went in at all.

I went around that problem by first, not supporting smart parts (Ban them!!! ) and second buying a J&J Edge kit...oooooooo soooo nice.

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Old 01-17-2007, 10:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I went around that problem by first, not supporting smart parts (Ban them!!! ) and second buying a J&J Edge kit...oooooooo soooo nice.
I see a lot of hate directed at Smart Parts on MCB... What's that all about?

Is it like the anti-Micro$oft thing in the computer geek world?
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I see a lot of hate directed at Smart Parts on MCB... What's that all about?

Is it like the anti-Micro$oft thing in the computer geek world?
Smart parts began to sue electro marker makers. and shut down many of them from making electro markers. those that paid the royalities still make them.
And for the record, buying smartparts products used does not support them, lol..
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I hate Smart Parts for two reasons. One, they are the evil empire of legal aggression. Two, their dumb lawsuits failed to force e-guns to extinction like I had hoped.

Anyways - I'm very happy with my J&J Edge kit. Best bang for you buck, in my opinion.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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In the category of evil choices for an control bore and muzzle brake insert barrel. Stainless inserts are better as the dimensions are more true to printed size.
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