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[snipeo101]

what do people thing of these barrels?
give us some accuracy statistics

my friend,(at-10) and I(at-4) are going to lathe a barrel for him. do you thing it is worth it(accuracy wise)?

once again plz give us some actual numbers- saying that there really accurate doesn't mean anything.

Thanks
Daniel

[Cunha]

The factory ATS barrels are awesome. They have a rubberized ball retaining ring at the base of the barrel and it really does a fantastic job.

I wouldnt want any other barrel really.

[snipeo101]

the unisizer doesn't work vary well for me, the paint i use is rather small. in fact i was haveing a problem of them rolling out of the barrel. and its only had 1500 round shot through it.

[Treadstone]

I've got to agree that the unisizer and ATS barrels have worked exceptionally well for me. When I had a custom barrel done up I used a stock AT-4 barrel with unisizer as the base for the work. I guess if the paint is extremely small or large you may have problems but at some point you run out of range with Freak inserts as well.
Northern Command has pre-freaked barrels for sale.
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Pre-Freaked is that even a word? LOL

[Gumby]

Was I the only one that cringed when he said "Lathe" something? Not to poke fun, I got laughed at 10 years ago for saying that very thing. It should be "Turn" something.

As far as the freak inserts go they can be a benefit if you have to use the very small paint. The stock barrels are actually what used to be considered somewhere in the medium bore range, but now tends to be on the large size. The id should be .690" +/- .003. One thing to keep in mind is the stock AT10 barrel is only 6" long. I don't have a freak insert in front of me but I tend to remember them being nearly that long by themselves.

I have been told that Northern Command can even get you ones that will still use the unisizer, although they may be special order items.

[snipeo101]

actually we measured the barrel and it is exactly 6"... with out the unisizer. because the freak will have to extend out to the end of the old unisizer. we should have around 1/2 to 3/4" to play around with at the end of the barrel.

personally i believe that lathe is the appropriate term but if you wish we can call it turning.

but once again can a get a statistical comparison of both?


Thanks
Daniel

[ponytail]

Just FYI, before it became the AT-85 / AT-10, when it was still the TS-1, the barrel used to come with adapter inserts like a Freak kit.

man, that was back in the day.

[Gumby]

Ah, you remember the original sizers. They went from the "0" being .680" to the "4" being .688".

As far as actual numbers go, that's a difficult question to ask. Too much will become preference and obscure the facts. Fact is with the inserts you will have more physical contact on the ball than you will with the unisizer. The stock barrel has an id of .690" for the length of any contact with the ball, it is relieved towards the end to reduce air turbulence. If you have the correct insert and your paint does not change its' size from the seam to the center you will increase the time the ball contacts the barrel. Now you can take that to mean it will be more accurate, or you can take that as increasing drag and causing the ball to be less accurate.

[snipeo101]

hey gumby

you have affiliations to ats right?

well i've been wanting to write them but i haven't had the time, and they wouldn't believe me.

ats dosnt get much funding right?

if ats really wanted to dominate the milsim world it would be hard set up but once you have some moldings, and changed some simple things like add different stocks and such.


if ats could make a mp5 replica with a mp5 stock or a mp7 and some other weapons of choice, ats could be THE milsim gun to get.

i'll even design it.

i would like to know more about how ats(company works) if they do there own molding ect.

Thanks
Daniel

[LoudThunder]

Originally Posted by snipeo101

personally i believe that lathe is the appropriate term but if you wish we can call it turning.

Lathe is a piece of equipment not a process. You cant Lathe anything only You can only use a Lathe.
And turning an object on a Lathe refers to the process making the Outside diameter of an
object smaller. The term for making an Inside diameter larger is referred to as boring.
You will be using the Lathe to bore the ID of the barrel not lathing the barrel.

As for statistical information on how NCP's "Freaked" ATS barrels compare to the "Bone Stock" ATS barrels. I have never collected that information. I don't have the necessary facility or equipment to do a true "bench" test. I do have personal experience with it (Dropping *like over 50 rounds* paint in a 4 inch hole from 130+ feet consistently).

And the people that have bought and used the "Freaked ATS" universally agree, That the Northern Command Paintball's "Freaked ATS Barrels" take the already incredible accurate ATS to the next level.