Paintball

[VM-onster]

I have 3 mags and a at-10... Everytime I stick a mag in will shoot 1 - 5 then jam. The bolt gets stuck on a paintball and or the bolt wont close all the way. I fired it without a mag(I know its not good to without a mag) and it shoots like supposed to. Any ideas on what I need to do? I still have not played a game with it and am dying too. Just seems I always jump into a problem the week of. thanks fellaz!

[zenmic]

Are the magazines indexed correctly? When you pull the magazines to clear the jam, can you turn the magazine indexer? Are the pins straight or bent? What kind of paint are you using? A lot of the tournament paint is smaller and has some really thin shell. The stuff that those tournament players call great paint really causes havoc with my AT guns. The balls jam my magazines and jam the paddles.

[onecaribou]

If you are seeing the same issue with more than one magazine then you my have a problem with your guide plate. I had the same symptoms until I checked, replaced mine.

Take a look at the manual for instructions on removing it and if the inside 'clip thingy' on the guide plate looks bent or triangular then you may have a problem.

Be sure to follow the instructions for installing it so it gets set correctly.

[L I T O]

Procedure to start your marker. Put a 3-5 oil drops in the male quick disconnect on your marker, air up your marker without the magazine. Dry fire 3-5 times to lube internals. Insert Mag and rock and roll. If you disconnect the air source, make sure the mag is out when you air up, fire a few rounds, then insert mag and rock and roll.

Guide plate may be the problem..... if the guide plate isn't broken and just slightly bent, you can straighten it with some pliers if your lucky. If it's broken, you must replace. The guide plates that come from LT are already pre-greased so no problem there. DO NOT apply too much grease or marker will not function properly.

You may need to reset the velocity the gun. Put in the velocity adjuster and turn all the way counterclockwise 'till you can't go no more. Then six full turns clockwise. This is usually a problem with full-auto on semi auto. Keep turning clockwise to increase velocity. During the velocity adjustment phase: Air up procedure, shoot to get velocity reading, disconnect mag completely, fire to empty chamber, readjust velocity, insert mag, fire to get velocity reading, repeat until desired velocity is reached. Yes, this marker is a closed bolt system ergo high accuracy.

Magazine problem. The chain links may be close together and not allowing the cog to catch and cycle. Consult the manual for this one, pg 18.

You can also reset the gun that forces a recycle of the action.

Insert mag then you can shoot one good shot. Then you pull trigger and nothing. Take out mag, and insert mag gently home, then tap the mag in home, fire a shot and then push the mag home and you should be able to shoot normally.

As zenmic said, the pins may be bent or not indexed properly. Indexed meaning that when your turn the indexer and it stops, you can see a pin in the small window in the back of your mag. Pg 17 Also try re-bending the long metal tension spring thingy that it does not jam open. If it is not indexed properly, you'll have to index it manually which look a long time for me with trial and error.

Service your regulator. Make sure you put back the first screw the same revolutions as it was unscrewed or your PSI will be messed up. Perhaps the poppet is reversed.....i had that problem once. pgs 24-27.

You must have a pretty good knowledge in operating this beast. Once it is mastered, you'll have no problems. These small problems you have now are what most of us had to go through. Give the manual a once through, you can also download it on the ATS website, bring file to Staples or similar and have them print it and bind it so you'll have a hard copy to consult.

You can also send it to Gumby. I'm sure he'll fix it for ya.

Hope this answered some questions you had or will have.

[VM-onster]

One thing about owning a ATS product is that it seems we are all part of a different family. Everyone is quick to help and get thier ATS bro's rolling... thanks fellaz!

Ok I am gonna try some of these suggestions that you guys have said and then get back to you and let you know whats goin on.

Checked my mags and they are good and smooth with the turn.

what kind of paint do you guys suggest? I was using some stinger that I had layin around.

I have a feeling that it may be the guide plate. Its not bent but it seems to be that its not moving freely, like its getting friction somewhere.

I will be back, I am gonna go play with it some more.

Thanks ONE, ZEN, & LITO

[Gumby]

There can be other causes of the jams you are having. Check the cog pin as well. Make sure its still there and not loose. Often after a guide plate failure you can end up with a loose or missing pin. This happens when the leaf spring breaks off and wedges at the front end of the slot. This then prevents the cog pin from being able to travel completely forward, the pull still pushes it forward which over time can fatigue the weld and cause the pin to break free. Once this happens it will not matter if you replace the guide plate or not, without the pin to keep the cog in the right place your magazines will mis-index.

Another easier to fix problem can be sand. I've seen sand in between the cog and pull prevent it from moving. The sand mixed in with the grease and formed a sort of glue. If this is the case just wipe it clean and install a fresh guide plate.

Next potential cause can be a loose coupling. To find this you'll need to remove the housing/sleeve assemblies from the receiver. The coupling is the connection point between the piston and cog pull. Make sure that the springs are still held in place by the washer and c-clip. If this is loose the cog will not move completely back and you'll have both a guide plate eater and magazine mis-indexer on your hands.

[VM-onster]

OH YEA!!! GUMBY THANKS BRO...

After a couple days taking my time and checking out all that you guys posted one by one, I finally found the problem. It was the the spring,washer,and c-clip. I have fixed it for now and she is spraying like should but I am gonna have to get a new spring, and
c-clip... Gumby where do I get that part? I also need the metal ball for a mag. When u get chance just let me know.

thanks everyone for chiming in and helping me out!

Josh

[Gumby]

The spring should be ok, but if you want to replace it then it's not a problem. PM me your address and I'll drop all 4 parts into the mail.

[WreckingCrew]

Originally Posted by Gumby

The spring should be ok, but if you want to replace it then it's not a problem. PM me your address and I'll drop all 4 parts into the mail.

Gumby best Customer support EVER!

[VM-onster]

Originally Posted by WreckingCrew

Gumby best Customer support EVER!

I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE!

Thanx Gumby man, I will Pm you my address... I need to buy some guide plates too from ya too. The gun ate one after another like you said becuase of the problem I was having. Thanks bro