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[Old Man]

Originally Posted by Helghast

So the entire internals of the Closer litterally just shot out of the back of the marker in one solid uniform peice? I understand that they did not go through the mask like in the pic, but they actually came out like that?

I'm so sonfused lol.

Yep the internals came out the back. They were broke, but were still dangling together..

[bryceeden]

Yeah, thats a rare problem with the old closer back caps BLAST will get you all taken care of no problem. Which leads me to call shens on any buldge in the body or anything broken(gun or mask) except the back cap.

By the way the whole picture thing is just flat stupid, if you've seen one shoot out even from pressureizing it without the back cap there is no force at all behind it, it just kind of pops out. Anyone with any knowledge of the Marq will just call you a retard if they see that picture, it might raise afew thoughts on the net but Zack will just call you a tool and be done with it. If you're going to put in a complaint do it in an inteligent way instead of playing tabloid reporter.

On a side note, the low pressure and such the Marq runs at and the back caps job being what it is taping it back together would have been a temporary fix that probably would have worked. I wouldn't do it, or reccomend it as its a bad plan but truthfully it would probably do the job. The Delta "tech" was probably some tourney player who was recomending what he would do. Delta is not BLAST.

[QC MAD KID]

Originally Posted by Drachen

I wouldn't really call that shady, so much as irresponsible.

^^

now days the tech arn't really helpful or are just plain dicks but sometime you get good guys

[Old Man]

Originally Posted by bryceeden

The Delta "tech" was probably some tourney player who was recomending what he would do.

Actually it was Big Chris.

[bryceeden]

Originally Posted by Old Man

Actually it was Big Chris.

I have no idea who that is but OK.

[Pontius26]

BLAST has always been awesome to help me out with tech questions, I've never had a bad call, I don't know what to say about this other than the kid might have exaggerated (sp?) what the tech said when he talked to the other players.

[mccockerboy]

i am a factory trained BLAST tech...If terry or any of the old school traveling techs heard about that...someone whould have had their butt chewed out.

but i seriously doubt the gun "flew" apart like you described...atleast ive never seen one do that.


its sad that someone would tell a kid to do that.

Now I have duct-taped parts to a gun to get myself through a tournamant...but nothing that wasnt unsafe(gripframes, halos, eyes...i even 5 min expoxied a rail to a gripframe(supprisingly it made it through a game)


Its sad that guys like this tool give alot of out real techs a bad name.

[excessiveego]

ok, shens on it all...........you say it "could" have put a hole in the mask if it had been taped together, wrong, the guns operate at 200psi so, lets say the internals break and that 200psi starts propelling parts, equal and opposite force state that half of the pressure would push the gun forward, half of the pressure would push the internals backwards, thats only 100psi pushing the internals out the back, that is less than an air compressor puts out, do you think you could put a hole in a mask with one of those blower ends you put on an aircompressor to blow dust and crap out of places, that would be putting out 150psi straight from the tank........... 100psi would barley scratch the lense, i had the bolt pin back out on one of my timmys and the bolt come out the back at about 150fps (again, gun was set at 300fps, equal and opposite force, ect) didnt even scratch my lense, it was a "WTF" and throw the bolt back in the gun and play on.

those pictures are WAY out of line, and will scare people away from the sport if they see them without being told the internals didnt make that hole, this is the kind of propaganda that the media uses to say that paintball is unsafe.

[1stGenRex]

I can guarantee you if Bob knew about this, he would be FURIOUS!

Also, that picture is obviously fake. I have read of this happening to someone and nothing remotely close to that happened to the guy shooting the gun.

[Surestick]

Originally Posted by excessiveego

ok, shens on it all...........you say it "could" have put a hole in the mask if it had been taped together, wrong, the guns operate at 200psi so, lets say the internals break and that 200psi starts propelling parts, equal and opposite force state that half of the pressure would push the gun forward, half of the pressure would push the internals backwards, thats only 100psi pushing the internals out the back, that is less than an air compressor puts out, do you think you could put a hole in a mask with one of those blower ends you put on an aircompressor to blow dust and crap out of places, that would be putting out 150psi straight from the tank........... 100psi would barley scratch the lense, i had the bolt pin back out on one of my timmys and the bolt come out the back at about 150fps (again, gun was set at 300fps, equal and opposite force, ect) didnt even scratch my lense, it was a "WTF" and throw the bolt back in the gun and play on.

those pictures are WAY out of line, and will scare people away from the sport if they see them without being told the internals didnt make that hole, this is the kind of propaganda that the media uses to say that paintball is unsafe.

Your reasoning is off. The force would be 200psi x the area in both directions if the internals were pressurized to 200psi The part that came out the back looks to be about an inch in diameter so the initial force acting on it would have been ~200lbs.

As far as the lense damage goes for compressed air vs marker parts, remember the difference between the thawed chicken & the frozen chicken against the airplane windshield on Mythbusters? You are comparing apples and oranges when you are talking compressed air and a chunk of aluminum.

Your reasoning on the bolt ejection speed from your Timmy is off too. The velocity wouldn't be halved, it would be a function of the force acting on the bolt (pressure times area) it's weight and how long the force was able to act. By the logic you apply every time you fire your marker you should be propelled backwards at 150fps.

I'm not saying this is real or fake just that you are basing your reasoning on false assumptions.

[/science-nazi]