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Old 12-08-2010, 11:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So i just picked up a used carter boxgun! It has in handle 12g, the problem i am finding is when i put a 12 gram in and twist the knob the gun has major leaks, it still fires, this does not happen 100% of the time, so far of 6 12 grams (3 crossman, 3 liss) 3 have been fine (2 crossman, 1 liss). Both the puncture pin and the disc look fine. However when i look at the 12g the hole is very small and is not always complete. So please any suggestion on things to try differently on the marker, or maybe different 12gs i should be using? PLEASE HELP MCB!
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try to measure the 12ies that did not pierce as well, see if they are slightly shorter than those that sealed. It seems like the 12ies are not being pushed all the way up the grip, and only just getting punctured. If you find the 12ies are sized inconsistently give Leland brand 12 grams a try, they are all I use, or as you live in Canada try to use MOSA's. I hope I understood your issue. Alternately have you checked the cupseal/powertube?
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Fold a small square of paper over a couple of times, and put it in the bottom of the 12g "bucket". Try again. It sounds like you have some really short/inconsistent length 12g's. The paper should shim it up enough to pierce and seal better. A more permanent fix would be to start buying better quality 12g's, like Leland "Special Force" or Mosa food-grade cartridges.
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i bought some unnammed gold ones and it solved the problem they are .5 mm longer so thanks guys!
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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One other thing that wasn't mentioned... Since you bought a used gun... check the puncture pin seal. If it's worn or even flat spotted (from over tightening a 12g), it can be a cause of leaks.

Seems like you already solved your problem. But giving the seal a once over can't hurt imho.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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yea i took a leak at it, it looked a little worn but nothing that should be causing issuses, i think its cool how its connected to the valve!
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You can also shim the pierce pin a la RTR. A slight measurement issues with his bucket changers requires the Garg to rely on two very thing washers before the oring is set in place.
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