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Old 01-24-2012, 02:20 PM   #901 (permalink)
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Same. From what I've seen, Carter PTs are significantly bigger than any other stock Nelson PT. That's why I had to go back to y0da to get a new version of the valve made for the Buzzard. It got me 40 consistent shots at 650 psi on a standard Nelson, so it'll be interesting to see what happens with a bigger PT than a Lapco #6.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:31 PM   #902 (permalink)
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Here's the size of my PT:
Port x3: .120
OD: .2445
ID: .1885
Wall: .028
striker OD: .498
Striker depth: .130
From front of PT to Front of Striker: 1.395
Total length of PT w/out cup seal: 2.504
Total length of PT w/ cup seal: 2.708
From back of striker to end of PT: .971
From back of striker to front of cup seal: .751
From back of striker to end of cup seal: 1.05
Total depth: 2.172
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:52 PM   #903 (permalink)
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Interesting...when was yours made?

Mine is a pre-Dye, probably mid-90s gun.

Port x3: .128
OD: .280
ID: .189
Wall: .091
From back of striker to end of PT: .990
From back of striker to front of cup seal: .760



Inner diameter is 0.189, same as a Lapco #6. Ports are 0.128" in diameter, x3, but are somewhat oval shaped as they are angled towards the front of the gun.

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Old 01-24-2012, 03:12 PM   #904 (permalink)
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It's older. It's from my Loo-Carter Hybrid Duck.
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Kind of sounds like you might have straight Nelspot compatible parts? I doubt Loo made his own PTs.
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I don't think he did, but it may also be a Carter since I believe it's his Valve body.

I'll get pics.
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I don't think he did, but it may also be a Carter since I believe it's his Valve body.

I'll get pics.
Dave loo did not make any bba valves, at least that is what I have been told. That makes your valve body a carter which means it uses one of his powertubes in all likelyhood.
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That's my understanding as well.
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Well, the Carter BBAs are standard Nelson threaded, and would take any standard internals. But yeah...we all know Carter internals have changed over the years. Has anyone posted a disassembled mini-comp?

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Here we go...that's definitely one of the fatty power tubes in the mini comp.
here is info from the Carter sticky on PBN:

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power tubes: there are two types, the old style and new style. with the newer power tube you should be able to get over 40 shots from a 12 gram on a warm day, with the old, over 30. older buzzards require the older power tube. you can apparently put the new style power tube on, but will have difficulties with velocity. buzzards that are post dye have the new style power tube, when ordering a replacement, be sure to specify which type you need.
*** if you have the old style power tube, which comes on pre-dye and dye buzzards, you can swap out the power tube for a phantom power tube.
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Dave loo did not make any bba valves, at least that is what I have been told. That makes your valve body a carter which means it uses one of his powertubes in all likelyhood.
Hence why he said "Loo/Carter Hybrid"


No necessarily though. Earon could have made it to fit an original PT. Remember for a while Earon had all the extra parts. Not meaning that he could build X number of guns without making anything. I'm sure he had to make and modify to utilize what he had available. So with out seeing the two side by side or getting the answer from the man himself it it's pure speculation right now.


Russ, ASP still has some carter PTs.
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