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Old 11-30-2011, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boxgun talk

Oaky so I got my first boxgun from llaw999 and I think its great so far.




So like, I shot it as you see here (Whoosh barrel with red insert and all) and my current efficiency is about 30 or so usable shots before the drop off or a complete stop to the 12ie. I have yet to take it to the field, I'm just shooting it at my house till I can make it out there. That aside, should I really want more shots per 12g? I'm pretty satisfied with that right there.

My first noticeable issue is the trigger pull. The trigger sear is touching the inside walls that guide the lower bit of the hammer. I'm thinking of grinding down the sides of the screw / sear but don't want to ruin it. I'll get a picture later for you guys so you can see.



Answers don't have to be from just boxgun / carter owners in fact if you got a nelson valve please chime in, I just wanna know what you think. And on a side note, how many of you carry spare powertubes and where do you get them. I don't really have the needed tools to make alot of the mods I see on here.


So yeah. I lurve the boxgun, it's accurate looks sexy and feels great in my hands.
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Get in contact with him on Portal if you need something done maybe you can get an invite to tag along with him to Earon's and then you can take the boxgun with you.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yep i am

Yes I am a San Diegan. I'm not familiar with Demonio. I got a picture here hang on...







There is noticeable wear on the sear / screw and more of the contact seems to be on the passenger side of the guide slot area. Thanks for the quick reply worrptangl. It's not a major nor is it hindering me. I've been able to tweak that a bit and it shoot fine. Once in a while the trigger will end up "sticking" before the return. If all I'm worried about is that 'sear / screw' piece I may be able to rectify the situation myself. It's not ruining my day by doing that but it's about the only thing I could find after tearing the gun apart multiple times.

I have a dremel around here somewhere to work the slot a lil' bit, but then the fanboy in me doesn't want to molest such a nice piece of work.
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If you are local just contact Demonio through one of the forum, let me know if you can't get in touch with him. He should be able to put you in touch with carter too if necessary.

Carter live in Chula Vista area so you maybe able to visit the shop just for him to fix the problem.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i dont think i'd be afraid to take a file to the side of the threaded piece that is rubbing.
from the looks of it he was aware of the issue and did a bit of milling post anno to correct it.
it seams to be the norm that these guns have tolerance issues from the "factory"
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Any of you buy from ASP? I'm planning on ordering some bits n bobs, and for sure a couple o' pierce pin seals. I wanna get the slammer together and show that off a bit
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Don't mess with it st all. The springs are special, use others and you will have binding. Carter internals ore proprietary as well aso asp phantom stuff won't work. Peirce pin seals might work. The slam changer is dangerous, Iron chef made a post telling how to tune it and make it usefull, I will post the link when I find it.

Be sure when first using the slam changer to ALWAYS wear a mask as a dislodged 12g can really hurt you or someone else. Always point the frame away from your body and others in case that happens. I owned the other BBA/slam box gun for a very limited amount of time and I managed to hurt my self with it.

Stay safe and if you have any questions or concerns, ASK!

Your in socal, we should meetup and play some ball sometime

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Quoted from ironchef:

This might work for you:

1. Measure your 12 grams' length with calipers and use the ones that are the same length
2. Turn your pressure adjustment nut on the bottom of the slam lever outwards until a 12 gram won't pierce.
3. Insert 1 of these 12 grams in the frame, and close the door. Make sure it is latched into place
4. turn the nut inwards slowly until the 12gram pierces, then turn it in a little more until it stops leaking. Don't turn it past this point anymore!!
5. That should be the ideal setting for the 12gram to pierce with the 12 grams you measured.
6. If you change to a new set of 12grams, you should measure the 12 grams again and you might need to readjust the nut.

You also could have 2 choices as far as 12-grams
1. thin seal wall but inconsistent length (crosmans or other generic brands), they pierce easily, but you need dto measure them.
2. thick seal wall and consistent length (like MOSA for example). These types have a harder time piercing, and they are longer than crosmans. I made the mistake of playing with crosmans, and when I ran out I borrowed some from a friend. I forgot to readjust the nut, and when I tried to slam the door shut, the latch wouldn't latch, and they shot out across the field.

If your 12 grams are shooting out cause the latch isn't closing, that basically means your 12 grams are too long.

My slam frame doesn't have a latch adjustment...can you show us a pic of yours?

I have come up with a solution to make the slam changer relatively safe...but it doesn't look that good in my opinion. Basically, I made a threaded knob that goes in place of where that adjustment nut is. If I were to use the slam frame, I would loosen the knob, open the door, insert a 12-gram, close the door (making sure its fully closed), and tighten the knob until the 12-gram seals. Basically I turned mine into a in-handle twist knob setup.

If you can't get the door to open, you should probably just shoot a few shots of air, to lower the remaining amount of gas left in the 12gram. That means the 12 gram is putting less pressure on the door, which gives the latch on the door more "play" to open
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah llaw999 was telling me it needed a new pierce pin seal. I plan on replacing that bit. I tested the faulty one in there and it for sure leaks a lil bit. in doing so I was able to set up the slammer somewhat. I need a new pp seal to make sure it is good to go.

I'm using some generic cartridges from velocity and surprisingly they are the same size. as far as the springs I don't plan on changing much. I'm very satisfied with the pull and return. It's a different set-up from my sniper and I realize the difference between the two as far as it's pump feel (my sniper is somewhat light but satisfying, not too tight).

Yeah lechooch I got a free saturday this 3rd of december (tomorrow lol) which is kinda rare because I work weekends. I dunno which field I'm gonna go to, or even if I can make it out but I'm gonna try to get out somewhere and ball for a bit cuz it's been so long for me. Chances are I'll be @ tcp (cuz it's closer to me) or Mr. PB which was my first exposure to paintball. Gotta love the woods and hills.
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