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Old 01-26-2012, 10:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New Carter Owner - two different Cocker threads?

So messing around w/ my new (to me) buzzard tonight, I discovered that not all autococker threading is the same. When I tried 3 different barrels (2x old style freak backs w/ "freak" cut-outs in back, and 1 old Warped Sports barrel) they wouldn't thread... THEN just for the hell of it I checked my Kaner Barrel, New Freak Barrel back and a Deadlywinds barrels, and they all DID thread. I decided it was time to break out the caliper and see why the other 3 wouldn't. Come to find out the first three have a threading outer diameter of .925in, where-as the stock carter barrel and the three that fit are all around .916in...

...maybe I'm just slow and never knew. The weird thing is I've never had any other issues w/ the .925in backs threading in my cocker-threaded guns...

Just thought it was weird and figured I'd post it up... I'll get a pic up of the Buzzard (w/ the RTR pump handle I bought back in DEC ) when I can get a pic of it in some daylight


EDIT/ADD: So I'm probably going to have Earon bore the barrel and get a set of inserts, but I was thinking does anyone know of any good 1 inch outer diameter barrel in the .680-.685 range... that might tide me over till I scrouge up the fundage for the Carter inserts
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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maybe a cocker bull barrel bored for freaks?
ive noticed deadlywind threads are real small.
if you thread them all the way except a couple turns you can wiggle the end back and forth.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome to the carter machine club! Glad to have you here!

Btw, "Aaron" is spelled "Earon" Goota watch out, some folks around here will club you for that...
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Welcome to the carter machine club! Glad to have you here!

Btw, "Aaron" is spelled "Earon" Goota watch out, some folks around here will club you for that...
Ah, good catch... wasn't I just giving you a hard time about spelling last weekend!
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Not all cocker threading is created equal.

I know dye barrels fit nicely. So go find .690 ultralite back and have it bored. Then pick up a cheap tip from ebay or the BST here.

Talk to Stacnhy he probably has something with the dimension your looking for for a good price also. But just be warned carter's don't always play nice with smaller freak inserts. If you search there are a few threads here about what people have done to overcome these issues.

Most come down to adding an o ring or two to the barrel and changing the bolt o ring to a smaller one. But they are good reads.
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Not all cocker threading is created equal.

I know dye barrels fit nicely. So go find .690 ultralite back and have it bored. Then pick up a cheap tip from ebay or the BST here.

Talk to Stacnhy he probably has something with the dimension your looking for for a good price also. But just be warned carter's don't always play nice with smaller freak inserts. If you search there are a few threads here about what people have done to overcome these issues.

Most come down to adding an o ring or two to the barrel and changing the bolt o ring to a smaller one. But they are good reads.
Yeah, I actually was surprised when they wouldn't thread because I had read the most recent threads about using the older style freak backs on a buzzard. Oh well. Honestly I think I'd rather get carter inserts anyways just to keep it as legit as possible... but I'll shoot Ryan a pm and see if he has any 1" Dia. cocker threaded barrels on hand. Thanks for the suggestion!

With the Dye backs do you get any pump-slop?
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A little slop.

I would definitely save up for the inserts from Earon. I prefer them to freak inserts, by far.

If Stanchy does see if he can put the bevel in the barrel and if it's possible to bore it a little more so the insert sits flush with the bevel. He might charge a bit more but it will be worth it in the long run.
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Make sure the two set screws on the bottom of the feed tube collar are not crazy tight.Some times that makes it hard to screw the barrel on and off because it makes the snub not perfectly round. Try it with the collar off.
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Make sure the two set screws on the bottom of the feed tube collar are not crazy tight.Some times that makes it hard to screw the barrel on and off because it makes the snub not perfectly round. Try it with the collar off.
I forgot about that. It's been a while since I had a Buzzard.
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Make sure the two set screws on the bottom of the feed tube collar are not crazy tight.Some times that makes it hard to screw the barrel on and off because it makes the snub not perfectly round. Try it with the collar off.
I loosened them up pretty good - to the point that the feed tube was wobbling around, but I'll give it a try w/ the collor completely off too just to see. Thanks
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