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Old 01-31-2012, 03:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Carter Machine, markers, tips and tricks!

Hey guys, as we all know, carter machine products are each handmade and one of a kind. This leads to each and every product having its own little quirks and compromises. I think we should make a thread dedicated to tips and tricks regarding each and every carter creation.

To kick it off, I will start with the boxgun.

Boxgun: The main issue that people encounter with the boxgun is binding with the pump handle and top rail.

Some fixes: Put a few layers of tape squares in front of the screw that holds the top real in place. Another possible help is adding a washer unserneath the rail where the screw threads in thus raising the clearance on the slide.

Barrel options for removable barrel carters.: There is a long thread on possible options that you can find here: Lapco Breech Sizers on Buzzard - Gallery/Review and here:Buzzard Barrel Options
You can also purchase a barrel with sizers for your carter, pm user demonio for further inforation.

Buzzard self autotrigger: This is an issue that has been around forever...I will do my best to sum it up: the way the buzzard is designed, the snub can move around slightly sometimes. If it moves too far forward it can make the gun self autotrigger. The tradditional way to remedy this is drilling a hole in the top of the snub and installing a small setscrew that holds the snub in place. Short here on the forum recently found an alternate fix:Accidentally "fixed" buzzard AT issue

Smoothing out your carter: Carters are all generally very smooth but there are ways to make them ungodly smooth...One can use very high grit sandpaper(1500 and up) to smooth the bolt, tpc, hammer, and powertube, and then use a polishing compound such as brasso to give them a nice smooth surface. This WILL improve your pump stroke! User worrptangl can chime in if he wants as he has a master technique.

So, You guys get where i'm going with this thread, post up your personal tips and tricks or your carter creations!

Thanks,
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The tradditional way to remedy this is drilling a hole in the top of the snub and installing a small setscrew that holds the snub in place. Short here on the forum recently found an alternate fix:Accidentally "fixed" buzzard AT issue
I can't really comment on anything because I'm only new to the Carter club but I will say that I would only recommend my alternative as a last resort. I would definatley get a set screw installed OR even try using a larger bolt o-ring as suggested by Splattttt before attempting what I did (which was remove about 1/16inch from the front of the sear bottom/face/slope)... hind-sight being what it is. Even though the gun works great now w/ the addition of the o-rings to the barrel, I discovered the hard way that the range between unwanted AT-ing and a non-sear-tripping condition is only about 1/8inch of horizontal adjustment of the bolt.
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My things to add at this time would be to tweak them as needed, as you will see huge improvements in their behavior when they are treated right. They love to be polished and cleaned meticulously, and if they have any hardened steel screws or bolts replace them with stainless steel to prevent stripping.
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I find making sweet sweet love to my Carter's helps break them in.
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My advice...(If they are new or newer)

DON'T MESS WITH THEM UNTIL THEY ARE REALLY STARTING TO BREAK IN OR YOU HAVE PLAYED WITH IT FOR AWHILE IF USED!!!!!!

Then you will notice the quirks. Some may start but go away after it breaks in and something else may come up.

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DON'T USE A DREMEL OR ANY MEANS OF DESTRUCTION AS YOUR FIRST RESORT...Only the LAST!!!!
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DON'T USE A DREMEL OR ANY MEANS OF DESTRUCTION AS YOUR FIRST RESORT...Only the LAST!!!!
Speaking from experience I 2nd that ^^^ FOR SURE! The tolerance is to close to use something that drastic as a 1st resort (only 1/16 of an inch off the sear = bad news bears!)... like I said before, It's like checking the tire pressure on a Ferrari w/ a baseball bat... should be a LAST resort

Although, unless your Down's kicks in every now and then like me, you probably would never consider it in the first place!
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With the new generation Carters, ie; Mini series (box gun included), there is really nothing to mess with. Unless it involves sex.
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Dremel is not so bad - just stop often and check - use sandpiper to finish it off instead of trying to be the dremel master.

Patience, persistence, and caution will serve you well.

Think before leaping, use it a lot to be sure, ask questions before you jump.

when in doubt send it to the big kahuna =)

a Carter is a work of art, sometimes it ready on the word go, sometimes it needs a little love, all the time it will serve you well if you care for it =)

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With the new generation Carters, ie; Mini series (box gun included), there is really nothing to mess with. Unless it involves sex.
The mini buzzard has zero problems in my case and I own 2. VERY reliable, boxguns tend to have more quirks. Again I have had 2 of them...
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Dremel is not so bad - just stop often and check - use sandpiper to finish it off instead of trying to be the dremel master.

Patience, persistence, and caution will serve you well.

Think before leaping, use it a lot to be sure, ask questions before you jump.

when in doubt send it to the big kahuna =)

a Carter is a work of art, sometimes it ready on the word go, sometimes it needs a little love, all the time it will serve you well if you care for it =)

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Agreed on all fronts, always ask questions before you do the irreversible.
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