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Cartah lovah 03-06-2013 03:05 PM

Carter or NW Comp--pic attached
 
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I'm 99% sure I got this from Carter machine but it was 25 years ago. Carter or NW comp, pic attached

Wildgoat 03-06-2013 03:41 PM

The gun itself looks to be a Comp. The back bottle adapter isn't the same as any of the NW Comp pics I can find. Here is a couple of pics I have found.
NW Comp and a Rebline - MCB Paintball Gallery
http://imageshack.us/a/img201/9186/p...08large2zt.jpg

Thelar 03-06-2013 04:07 PM

I am going to go with NW Comp. The Grips on Carters were glued.

capitalpaintball 03-06-2013 05:30 PM

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Carters also have a "squarer" pump handle, while NW's are more rounded.
Carter milling on the site rail is an easy giveaway but its not always done.
serial number on the bottom of the grip frame will always mean its a an NW, carter doesn't number his comps.
Its always possible to have a mixed gun, with parts of both.
but I am going with NW Comp.
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snaparen 03-06-2013 09:32 PM

NW comp with after market (looks like lapco) BBA.

Cartah lovah 03-08-2013 09:03 AM

I hate to beat the **** out of this thread but I found a APG Magaine from 1987. It has an article on the Carter Comp and the grips are SCREWED ON. I always heard Carter grips are glued, not screwed.

WALZ 03-08-2013 09:20 AM

Back in the 80's I added "sex" bolts to my carter because I changed the trigger spring and didn't know how to glue the wood grip back on to the metal grip frame...
Thats all I'm going to say....

Brassballs 03-12-2013 02:30 AM

carter with double screwed grips
http://www.vintagerex.com/pics/gunpi...s/oldcomp1.jpg

carter with rounded edge pump
http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/r...sure-year.html

does the bottom of your grip have a ser#?if it does it's a NW




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Cartah lovah 03-28-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cartah lovah (Post 2646009)
I'm 99% sure I got this from Carter machine but it was 25 years ago. Carter or NW comp, pic attached

This gun is certainly a Carter, I sent a pic to Carter Machine and Earon said he certainly made this gun. I've heard rumors that he didn't screw the handles on, he confirmed that he did.

bacci paintball 03-31-2013 04:44 PM

Earon told me that he had a brief relationship with NW and when the relationship ended she took one of his comps and ripped it off. But I think there is more to it than that.

Earon mentioned that he worked with Jay Wilson of Tri Jay machining on various projects including the Tri Car (Tri J and Carter=Tri Car) and I imagine machining some of his original comp parts.

Nicky Wilson was a relative of Jay Wilson and had Tri Jay make her NW comps.

Seems possible that Tri Jay was making some of the parts for both pumps at the same time to produce a larger run and bring costs down for both parties?

External variations:

Carter:
Early comps used the low profile sight rail (same as NW) and later comps used tricar style sight rail.
Some have flat edges on the front and back of the pump handle.
Steel sight pin at front of barrel, some used a fluorescent dot.
Some used bolt through center of frame, most used glued on grips. Most have the hole for the bolt in the center of the grip frame regardless of whether they used it.

NW:
All used low profile sight.
All used round pump handles
Brass front sight pins
Serial number on base of grip frame

Besides the external variations (pump handle, screw through grip, sight rail, lead sight pin vs brass) there are also internal differences which are present, although Earon likely changed parts constantly so this also might not be a sure sign one way or another. I think NW was a little more consistent with parts.

Carter Internals:
Anti Kink Full bolt with allen or 4 hole adjuster.
Three port powertube, possibly a short tube.
Bolt/Hammer combo isn't compatible with NW internals (smaller anti kink?).

NW Internals:
Anti Kink bolt with edge shaved off in feedport.
Early internals were parkerized, later were nickel plated
Bolt/Hammer combo isn't compatible with Carter internals (larger anti kink?).
Long powertube with 2x base holes angled up not straight through.

Post some pictures of your internals and some better pictures of your paintgun if you can.
Hope that helps and if anyone has any more information please post.


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