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Mozak 04-08-2014 03:53 PM

Some Carters Cock some Dont?
 
Just was wondering why when some carters are not aired up they cock back and fire like a cocker pump would UNaired but with most carters they don't cock when they're not aired up (like most nelsons are) hmmm.. anyone?

jchen76 04-08-2014 04:57 PM

I think this maybe due to valve spring and mainspring combination.

Comp/Buzzard I had could cock/fire without air. Boxgun does not. Same goes with unmodified phantom.

Mozak 04-08-2014 05:58 PM

Well I know phantoms never do, but hmm... I've messed with alot of spring combos with my other buzzard and never had it cock

desertT1 04-08-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozak (Post 2935700)
Well I know phantoms never do, but hmm... I've messed with alot of spring combos with my other buzzard and never had it cock

I had a unibody that did. I had a later model that didn't. If it's the same valve type, the maker won't really matter. With the right spring combo's, it can happen.

eddielives75 04-08-2014 07:08 PM

Hard valve spring will make you cock without air pressure

Riddler 04-11-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddielives75 (Post 2935743)
Hard valve spring will make you cock without air pressure

this.

sniper42 04-15-2014 08:47 PM

It is also somewhat dependent on how far back the cocking slots are cut. Since carter does a lot of work by hand, some may be cut farther back than others.


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