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Old 01-21-2009, 12:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If he buys a Box Gun with the back bottle air its about the same practicality as the mini comp, in handle is not my thing.
Depending on how you like playing. For pure performance, I always shoot better with a T-stock and a slightly longer barrel. If you play on larger fields the mini-comp will give you a longer effective range.

But again, I'd really like a Carter Box Gun, especially one that's 2" longer than normal
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I measured mine, comes in at just under 2" above the normal length.

EDIT: That sounded too sexual... sorry.
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Had to sig that, pre-edit of course.

How long is your box gun from the start of the breach to the end of the barrel?
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Hrmmm. I cannot find it in my PM inbox, but I know someone asked. I will measure it again once I get home tonight. The only answer I can give until then is: quite long. It does not feel awkward or bulky though; the extra length seems to balance the BBA nicely.
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Have you used a pistol as a primary before? It does take some getting used to and it's not for everyone. That being said, I would never want to choose between my Redux and my Minicomp, and if I were to buy another high end Neslon it would definitely be a Carter Boxgun.
The only other nelson based gun that I have used is a Phantom and a Blade(not the turbo.) As far as pistols go I have Mar's PGP on the way so that will tel me if I like pistols. If I don't then my second choice was a BBA Minicomp with L stock.
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The only other nelson based gun that I have used is a Phantom and a Blade(not the turbo.) As far as pistols go I have Mar's PGP on the way so that will tel me if I like pistols. If I don't then my second choice was a BBA Minicomp with L stock.
If you don't like the PGP, don't let it turn you off of the Boxgun. I have to say I love PUGs, but I can't play with one worth a damn. I've found that for pistols, there's a huge difference in feel between a sheridan "rock backwards", and a nelson "rock forwards"

If you can use your phantom without a stock of any sort and you don't mind the feel, you'll be fine with a Boxgun. Either way, it's pretty damn hard to go wrong buying a Carter.
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If you don't like the PGP, don't let it turn you off of the Boxgun. I have to say I love PUGs, but I can't play with one worth a damn. I've found that for pistols, there's a huge difference in feel between a sheridan "rock backwards", and a nelson "rock forwards"

If you can use your phantom without a stock of any sort and you don't mind the feel, you'll be fine with a Boxgun. Either way, it's pretty damn hard to go wrong buying a Carter.
That's good to here. Actually I maybe one of the few that didn't like using a stock with my Phantom. I prefered it without it.
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I personally have a hard time playing with shoulder support on stock class guns, stock etc. I found that both Box guns and Mini Comps are extremely natural to shoot and just plain ole fun.
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I would wait on getting a Box Gun. I am starting to get most annoyed with mine. The return spring is not nearly strong enough to function, and now every single trigger pull causes the internals to get pulled backwards. This means I cannot fire the gun unless I hold onto the pump handle which, in my opinion, is unacceptable. Shims don't work either, as by the time you add enough to make a difference, they prevent the pump arm from being able to pump back far enough.

I have an email in to Lauren about this, I will post up once they get back to me. My 10/10 gun is now a --/10.

EDIT: I updated this on the next page, I needed to fine tune the gun to my exact specs and tinker a bit.
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My Redux is the exact same way, you need to hold the pump handle forward in order to get it to fire. If you don't, pulling the trigger causes the whole slide (and internals) to move backwards. I did find it quite odd to get used to, since I initially found myself trying to fire one handed a lot.

I'm not sure if this is a common thing or not.
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