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bryceeden 04-09-2009 02:48 PM

Mini Comp
OK, so I'm seriously considering picking up a Mini Comp. I've been using a VSC Phantom for quite awhile, and definatly like stock play. How is maintenace on the Mini Comp, how much better is it then the Phantom(is it worth the extra money)? How long is the wait time usually to get one? How is the stock barrel? My biggest gripe with the Phantom is inconsistent velocitys, I've read that the Carter is very consistant which is why I'm looking at it. I've read both the reviews on here, but just wanted alittle more input. Also how does the new Grey Ghost compare?

EDDAKA 04-09-2009 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by bryceeden (Post 778585)
My biggest gripe with the Phantom is inconsistent velocitys,

Thats probably your fault, not the phantoms:)

bryceeden 04-09-2009 02:58 PM

Maybe, but the question is how do you fix it. I'm unaware of any tuning or anything that could help.

shoot to thrill 04-09-2009 03:08 PM

The only reason I ever ever had to clean anything inside my mini comp was because of ****ty dirty crossman twelve grams. It still is thus far my favorite stock class gun, and I am going to most likely have another built this summer. I waited like 7 weeks for mine.
What I love about the mini comp really specifically over the phantom is the pump stroke, trigger, easy of reassembly, and now it comes stock with a 3 insert barrel kit. Well worth the money.

idkfa 04-09-2009 03:13 PM

A Carter shoots the same as a Phantom/Nelson, of similar setup (my Box Gun shoots like a Nelspot, for example). If you don't like the way your Phantom shoots, you won't find a Carter any better. They should also be identical in consistency, providing a good barrel. Typically Carters are a little more maintenance intensive due to the collar design, but the new collar-less Carters are likely very similar to a Phantom.

Carters do hold nicer, in my opinion, but that is conjecture. If you find Phantoms too light, a Carter will likely work well for you.

You can definitely improve your Phantom's consistency, I would look into that a bit more before tossing them aside.

Carters are great guns though. I love them. Just keep in mind you are not paying for a "better" gun in terms of performance. You are paying a premium for a hand made work of art which has fit and finish that is mostly unparalleled.

Heebs 04-09-2009 03:24 PM

Get the mini comp. SO worth it.

bryceeden 04-09-2009 03:25 PM

I understand that they are the same basic design. I love my Phantom, its my favorite marker but its just not very consistant and doesn't get great efficiency. I've heard the Carters fix that. If the Phantom is fixable does anyone know where I can find out how?

idkfa 04-09-2009 03:27 PM

What setup are you running with your Phantom?

Schmitti 04-09-2009 03:30 PM

Yeah if your phantom is getting bad efficiency and consistency you have to look at your gas supply and paint. Pressure should be 800+ psi... paint should be good and get the little detents or if your really picky get a good barrel kit or PPS barrel.


bryceeden 04-09-2009 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by idkfa (Post 778649)
What setup are you running with your Phantom?

Its a VSC Phantom with a 14" Lapco barrel and the ASP detent mod(got alittle more consitant after I got the mod) Chronoed at 285 average I get 20-25 shots off of a 12gram before it drops below 230. Velocity is +/- 10 usually.

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