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Old 12-07-2009, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So how would you guys go about buying a Phantom?

I've always wanted a Phantom. The thing is, I've got expensive tastes, and my ideal Phantom will be quite expensive to purchase. Also, while I have played and prefer stock class, I normally used my PGP or Snipers (well, they're open class, but whatever), so I'm more familiar with the Sheridan-based setup and feel. My Redux just won't work right...

So with that said, what's the best way to go about getting a Phantom? It would have to be stock class. Get a cheap used one from the B/S/T's to get used to it? Buy a new base model from CCI? Just save the pennies and go all out and get my dream setup?

I'm thinking a used one would just take up space in my gear bag and rot once I decide to upgrade, as I tend to hold onto things instead of reselling them. That would also just be that much more I spent in the long run.

The same goes for the new base model, except I'd be putting more down on that. Of course, I'd get more play time out of it, I think.

My personal favorite is just going crazy and getting my preferred setup. Logic and reason is against this, though. It's also kind of a gamble. If I like it, there you go. Love and magic . If I don't, I'll take a loss, but it will have trade and resale value. But that's just a lot of money put down up front. I haven't priced it all out yet, but here's what my ideal setup would be:

- Red/clear acidwash RF VSC Phantom with .45 frame
- Match anodized adjustable T-stock
- Clear components (feed gate, feed block and pump handle)
- Full detente ring kit
- Match anodized 3.5 oz tank

I know on the tank I'd have to find one and convince Mike to toss it in the ano batch, but I figured I'd add it to the list anyway. I figure all of that would put me in the $450 to $500 range...

So what are you guys' thoughts?
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Get the setup you want. Anything else and you aren't going to be happy with it anyway. Then you'll go with the ones you like more. At least if you get the dream setup you'll give it an honest chance. It'll feel different than a Sheridan setup and you need to play with it for a few days before passing judgement.

Plus, that setup isn't too wild. It should hold value well.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^^^ what he said. If the Dux isn't working for you, why not sell it and buy what you really want?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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IIRC, there's one pretty similar to that in the B/S/T right now, although I don't think it was RSC
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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it all comes down to cash... unless i missed it in your post and it doesn't matter ...
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My dream Phantom...

1)Must have a slide trigger.
For that I would turn to RTR.
2)Then the body that makes the most sense would have to be one of Have Blue's, but in a right feed configuration. Only he doesn't make those.
3)Next, since I can afford a Redux, I would want a Duck Slide from Mongo. Also a right feed. So forget about that!
4)Then I'd want three Lapco barrels in .681, .684, and a .686.
5)I'd ask for every part be left raw, and have them all hard annoed gray.
Over all cost would estimate in the mid to upper $700.
Not bad for a dream gun. Even if it's a Phantom.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I REALLY don't want to sell the Dux. I WILL get it to work.

But even if I did, I feel the Phantom would be more versatile anyway.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I saw this exact kit for sale here around 2 months ago I think...cept it was red with silver/black splash IIRC
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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But I'd also like to buy it new. Kind of the magic of saying, "Hey, this gun was built for ME."
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My personal favorite is just going crazy and getting my preferred setup. Logic and reason is against this, though. It's also kind of a gamble. If I like it, there you go. Love and magic . If I don't, I'll take a loss, but it will have trade and resale value. But that's just a lot of money put down up front. I haven't priced it all out yet, but here's what my ideal setup would be:

- Red/clear acidwash RF VSC Phantom with .45 frame
- Match anodized adjustable T-stock
- Clear components (feed gate, feed block and pump handle)
- Full detente ring kit
- Match anodized 3.5 oz tank

I know on the tank I'd have to find one and convince Mike to toss it in the ano batch, but I figured I'd add it to the list anyway. I figure all of that would put me in the $450 to $500 range...

So what are you guys' thoughts?
1. If you can afford to buy it new, then buy it new.

2. If you can afford to get it the way you want, then get it the way you want.

3. If you can afford to get it the way you want consider getting it more than the way you want it (It wouldn't cost that much more ($100 or $150) to get a DF breech and multiple valves (rear, dropout) anodized the same way, you may never want to use them but if you did matching your ano would be an absolute bitch and for the most part Phantoms with custom ano parts and black bits mixed don't look so good).

4. If you can afford to get it the way you want maybe get multiple barrels (nothing like buying a barrel in a custom ano and finding it is not the size you want, see bit above about being a bitch to match ano). Getting two barrels the size and ano you want and then having one Freak bored is not a bad idea (I had to get one Freak bored because the paint around here is so tiny it falls through the small detent ring).

5. If possible borrow someone's Phantom (a friends or at an MCB meet in your area) and see what you like and don't like about their setup. If you are lucky they will be someone that has enough Phantom parts to do multiple setups (I'm one such person, but I live in a different country).
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