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Old 12-13-2009, 07:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A few questions

what are the temperature's before the 12 grams start to become inconsistent?

What kind of climates are best for what springs? (pertaining to the spring kit)

How do you gauged valves from CCI work? good or bad?

How does the ASP detent mod work? good or bad?


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Old 12-13-2009, 07:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's not so much the consistency that suffer as the shot count I find. I usually start leaving the 12g's at home in November. Not sure what the temperature specifically is, but probably around 10*C.

You can't really pick a region and say X springs will work best. Use what springs you need for your specific situation. That being said, I've never had anything but the stock springs in my Phantoms and they're always bang on.

Gauged valves are a bit of a gimmick. I don't see a huge benefit for them on a Phantom.

I have no input regarding the ASP mod since I've never used it (or even seen it in person), but it seems like it would work just fine.

Hope that helps.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Guaged valves don't do much more than look cool. I've got one on my Phantom.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks guys
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Old 12-14-2009, 01:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have the detent mod. It works for me. My reloader pushes past them though. Harder orings should help that though.
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Old 12-14-2009, 10:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks alot guys.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I suggest you use a Freak-bored barrel, not detents. No rollouts, perfect bore match. There are many threads posted on that subject so I won't repeat their content here.
The ASP detents stop rollouts. They are incredible really. While this is anecdotal, I could not tell the difference between a tight bore Freak w/ stock barrel, and the ASP detents with a huge overbore.
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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To stop rollouts and match bore and barrel, the Python kit would also be worth mentioning. 4 sizers in the kit, and you can still use the (very good) stock barrel. You can even get .679 and .670 inserts from the company. I've never used it, but I've only heard good things from those who have.

Also, I've used CO2 tanks on a Phantom without problems in temperatures as low as -17C. IIRC I put in the red main spring when it got that cold, otherwise the stock springs will be just fine.
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Also remember that CO2 will loose power at under 50 degrees F......
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