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Old 03-15-2012, 04:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Very nice detent mod. What would stop one from doing the same only drilling the hole on the bottom? ie. 1/16" above the already existing breech screw only swing it around to the bottom ala Empire Trracer?
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Very nice detent mod. What would stop one from doing the same only drilling the hole on the bottom? ie. 1/16" above the already existing breech screw only swing it around to the bottom ala Empire Trracer?
I'm not familiar with the new trracer's placement. I know I did this for the phantom how I did because the feedblock would cover the mod and the trigger frame has the pump rod and various other items. It was just cleaner with that placement.

You can do the same mod with ego detent, but its more of a grind mark into the body and well, the spyder detent has a longer "finger" that tends to help better with really tiny paint.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So any advice on what kind of detent mod would be best for playing with a phantom?

i was thinking ASP... but wanted to get some more advice
I have the ASP mod and it works fabulous down to a certain paintball size... I'm not sure exactly what that is but recently discovered that .674 is too small for the o rings that came with my unit over a year ago.

They now come with PTFE rings that apparently handle smaller paint. I'm waiting for my set and will have a chance to test them out as I seem to have a lot if small paint around right now.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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senghing27--
Does the mod you describe prevent double feeds, or just prevent roll outs? I've thought about doing what you described or doing my own asp style mod but have had trouble deciding/resolving if it is really worth it.

home spun asp mod:
pros: the o-rings are cheeap!!!
cons: more difficult to cut pocket for o ring.

spyder nubbin mod:
pros: easier to drill hole for detent
cons: those little nubbins are actually expensive!

Jaccen: after having spent lots of time looking at my phantom body and diagrams/pics of the asp mod, i am quite certain there is enough space to fit a spyder detent on the bottom of the body. It may have to be rotated slightly to the side of being exactly on the bottom of the body to make room for the pump arm.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have a well equipped wood shop with a very good quality drill press and I would not attempt the ego detent and most certainly not the ASP detent.

The spyder detent I would try for sure and may just do that on the extra body I have. Your right though the detents are pricey for what they are... Mounted on the under side of the breech would allow for use in oc config as well. Then I'd have a breech with each type of detent mod (ssc its sending me his version shortly.)
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Legolas- It would do both. The detent would keep the one ball in the breech until you push the pump handle forward.
You could mount it on the underside of the body, but that's going to be a tight squeeze and it's not as secure as being wedged by the stockclass block.

As for OC play, I don't usually shoot open class with a phantom, so I really don't have much input there.
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Right now I'm using a python kit in my phantom for sizing and what not. But double feeding is more an issue than roll outs it seems, however both are a continuing problem....

Seeming like people are saying the ASP is the best detent to go for?
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Right now I'm using a python kit in my phantom for sizing and what not. But double feeding is more an issue than roll outs it seems, however both are a continuing problem....

Seeming like people are saying the ASP is the best detent to go for?
I'm not sure how the spyder or ego detent mod would help with double feeds. The reason the ASP mod helps with that is that the rear o ring keeps the ball from moving forward to the firing position until you pump forward.
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