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Old 05-07-2012, 04:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Rare parts do help in the case of phantoms.
Punisher pieces, frantoms, internals, pool ball pumps, etc.

I'm not sure if anyone remembers this. But a basic buzzard went for about what? $450-550. All of a sudden people dumped their buzzards and they were going for $300-350. For that price, I'd pick up that buzzard and dump my phantom.

What people need to realize about paintball and values is this, it is mostly hype and perspective driven. There are those that go, "Oh man, I can get xyz marker, drive the value up, and then dump it for profit." The thing is, that is part of the past. In this economy, not everyone has the means to afford the higher end markers or multiples of low/mid end items.

Add to the equation the lack of buyers that used to buy and sell items, well, the market value of items start to decline.

If an item is in high demand, the value will be there. When it isn't it will decline. Simple economics, but with a paintball twist.
Yup, I'd pick up a buzzard too If I saw a reasonable price. Economics is king. phantoms still have that customizable feature with a wealth of aftermarket options available, which is a help or hindrance depending on the end user / buyer
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:49 PM   #23 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=On a side note, didn't you get it for $225?[/QUOTE]

Talking about a different phantom haha.... but i still refuse to feed into the market. Content with keeping it if no one can appreciate it's worth. Hell i got a great deal.... feel bad for the owner who took a massive loss.
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kind of curious as to how one drops 500 INTO a phantom...

some of the most costly upgrades are things like grip/trigger group combos - those can be $225 or so - internals maybe another $50 - $75 or so - did you do a total facelift on the phantom or wha?

it is currently a buyers market - lots of markers are commanding lower prices due to volume of sales available - in some cases things still sell high due to rare parts, highly desired parts, etc.

good luck with your sale but without specifics I couldnt tell you more
over the course of 4 years I've put close to $1k into my phantom.

Figure $300 for VSC 45 Phantom for starters
$60 for 86 frame
$20 for phrantom 2 barrel
$20 for cp direct on/off
$100 for bad powder coat
$100 for "custom" pump kit using existing Vert ASA
$30 for freak'd stock barrel
$8 for Zip Strip to remove powder coat
$100 for 14" DW barrel
and $290 for various new parts and anno from Mike vs $550 or so for all new

which in hindsight is a better deal but averaging $250 per year isn't really anything either.

But for years an $1k has landed me a sweet phantom that everyone seems to envy and want to buy.

Can't wait for the Revo. Past experiences has learned me what I want exactly, just can't settle on a color.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Haha yeah... It definitely seems like you paid 225 for that one... Definitely were bragging about it in another thread. On a side note, these markers are only worth what people are willing to pay. If you ask me, 250 for a 300-350 phantom is a nice deal (for the seller), especially a few years later. Take a look at Ego's, you can get an Ego 10 for around 5-600 now.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:12 AM   #26 (permalink)
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It is easy to spend $500 on a phantom: VSC w/ pretty anno, T-stock, additional RF body + clear parts and you are right around $460 (give or take a little)...
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:25 AM   #27 (permalink)
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my comment wasnt on how hard or easy to spend - I was wondering upon WHAT the OP spent =) thus when the link was pointed out I evaluated what I saw =)
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Talking about a different phantom haha.... but i still refuse to feed into the market. Content with keeping it if no one can appreciate it's worth. Hell i got a great deal.... feel bad for the owner who took a massive loss.
Then obviously you have no need or real desire to sell to exchange your perceived value into money the bank says you have.


Its just like artwork, sure "x" painting of a piece of **** is worth a million dollars, but until you sell it, all it is is a picture of ****
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:02 AM   #29 (permalink)
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If we put upgrades aside, I still think the market value of a standard VSC has gone down in the past few years. Phantoms were the gun to have in like 2002. Once autocockers got stupid cheap in 2003-04, and the SS-25 came out, Snipers and CCMs started dominating and open class became way bigger than stock/modified stock.
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