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Old 11-12-2012, 09:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm a fan of the sideline stabby setup on phantoms, if I had to go the regged route.

You really shouldn't be having such a wide spread with constant air and matched barrel/paint.
Stock internals I presume?

Do you happen own a gauge and see what the PSI output of your reg is? Either it's crazy amount of creep, or something else is a factor here.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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seng, its pretty consistant on CO2. The internals are stock (mirror polished) and I opened up the powertube.
I'm inferring that the output from the tank is all over the place. But if its between re-reggging the tank or putting a reg on the gun its an easy choice.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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seng, its pretty consistant on CO2. The internals are stock (mirror polished) and I opened up the powertube.
I'm inferring that the output from the tank is all over the place. But if its between re-reggging the tank or putting a reg on the gun its an easy choice.
Right, I understood that part. I think it would be best to grab a gauge and check the psi spread on the tank reg before dropping money down for a tank or gun reg.
I'd rather be sure that it is the tank reg than any other problems. In addition to the inconsistency that you're getting, the HPA reg sounds pretty awful.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:07 AM   #14 (permalink)
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You shouldn't need to use a reg at all on a phantom.
Co2 is more than any hpa tank puts out.
If any thing springs should be changed.
All your doing is starving the valve and splitting hairs.

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You shouldn't need to use a reg at all on a phantom.
Co2 is more than any hpa tank puts out.
If any thing springs should be changed.
All your doing is starving the valve and splitting hairs.

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????? I have no idea what you are trying to say in what I highlighted.

Did you read the OP? erratic output pressure from HPA reg. A regulator is great for regulating erratic pressures [hence its name "regulator"] The whole "starving the valve" concept just really does not work. There is more than enough volume in a Phantoms Valve to propel a paintball at a reasonable velocity given the appropriate pressure is supplied. By adding a regulator prior to the Phantom's valve helps assure more consistent pressure in that volume shot to shot potentially granting you more consistent velocity shot to shot. I doubt you can shoot a phantom fast enough to out race the recharge rate on most acceptable regulators so far recommended. Granted regulators are not absolutely required to get a Phantom to work well and they do effect CO2 cartridge "mileage" but other then that a viable option.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The only down side is the Stab kinda rules out a gas through grip.
the female stab would love to be part of a reg'd gas thru grip phantom.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I may see if I can rig a pressure gauge in series to see what kind of output this tank is giving. It has to be higher than nominal CO2 but it is academic at this point.

Legolas- I should clarify through the "main grip." I'm going to make myself a one-off 86' type grip and I can probably get the parts to fit but leaving a sane way to adjust it would be the issue.

The $aint, need has nothing to do with it. I got this POS tank so when it gets around freezing here it doesn't look like I am shooting blackpowder with CO2. I may just sell the 13/3k and just use handwarmers under a neoprene sleve on the CO2.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If it were me, I would check the tank's HPR for recharge and pressure creep. If it is inconsistent, I would repair/replace as necessary rather than introducing another regulator into the system. Personally, I find that a consistent HPA source is all that is needed for optimum Phantom performance.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok I'll bite. Someone recommend a good small high pressure tank reg( no gauge or fill nipple). I've got $42 into this tank now and a Palmer side-line Stab reg is $69.
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I see a palmers side stab for sale in the BST section under Misc for $40+$5shipping.
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