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Old 03-28-2014, 10:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What should I buy?

So in typical MCB fashion I bought one of Dukie's phantom lever kits without owning a phantom.....



My plan is to tap the valve on the top add a lever changer up behind the breach and have a springfeed that runs the length of the barrel.

So what the heck do I buy from CCI? Can I just order a tube, valve, hammer and spring etc. or should I go all out and buy after market stuff? I'm looking to max out efficiency and consistency.

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Old 03-28-2014, 10:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Air soldier has all the parts you could ever want. But you can always call up Mike and order the parts from him.

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So in typical MCB fashion...
HA! A true laugh-out-loud! Yeah, I was eye-balling the big hoop one, but just can't afford another project right now. I've been wanting a lever-action Phantom for quite some time too. Good for you though! It's going to be awesomeness once it's finished off.

I'm wondering why you wouldn't just replace the bobbed valve with a back bottle valve body? Does the bobbed valve get blocked in by the trigger assembly in the back? Can't tell from the photo.

I don't get too hung up on maximizing maximizing efficiency and consistency. Since CO2 pressure is determined by temperature, "maximizing" with 12-grams is an ever-moving target for players who experience broad temperature shifts during the day. A proper paint-to-bore match will impact overall performance far more than any internal mods or gimmicks will. CCI internals (blue main spring) have given me above average efficiency, and PPS stabs have given me above average consistency. If/when it gets hot out, my gun's performance maximizes.
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Call Mike! He would dig helping with your project! Pimp looking setup! Dukie is whack!

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Air soldier has all the parts you could ever want. But you can always call up Mike and order the parts from him.

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Yea calling Mike sounds solid.

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HA! A true laugh-out-loud! Yeah, I was eye-balling the big hoop one, but just can't afford another project right now. I've been wanting a lever-action Phantom for quite some time too. Good for you though! It's going to be awesomeness once it's finished off.

I'm wondering why you wouldn't just replace the bobbed valve with a back bottle valve body? Does the bobbed valve get blocked in by the trigger assembly in the back? Can't tell from the photo.

I don't get too hung up on maximizing maximizing efficiency and consistency. Since CO2 pressure is determined by temperature, "maximizing" with 12-grams is an ever-moving target for players who experience broad temperature shifts during the day. A proper paint-to-bore match will impact overall performance far more than any internal mods or gimmicks will. CCI internals (blue main spring) have given me above average efficiency, and PPS stabs have given me above average consistency. If/when it gets hot out, my gun's performance maximizes.
I have no idea what a bobbed valve or non bobbed valve is lol. I think a back bottle setup would get in the way of your hand trying to grip the handle. I'm thinking of putting a sawed off winchester stock on it ala the Mare's Leg.

A top lever changer would be the only aesthetically pleasing way to get air to it.

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Note that the body and valve on there are just something Dukie tossed on to show how they'll sit on the lever action. You'll need a valve, internals, a body, a barrel, a feed, and some kind of ASA to fit the whole thing out.

I'm personally thinking that my plan is a 14" factory freak bored barrel, stock Phantom feed block, a center-feed stock class body, standard internals (maybe with a fluted hammer), and either a stock valve so the 12ie sits along the top of the stock, or a side valve run with line to a dropout changer mounted in the forearm or stock.
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a side valve run with line to a dropout changer mounted in the forearm.....
Some sort of lever This.
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I'd rather have the 12 gram lever changer on top of the valve and behind the springfeed since it would look better and there wouldn't be a line from the front of the gun to the rear.
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What's the best barrel length for a Phantom?

I was going to go with a 14 inch barrel and 18 round springfeed like my DSG has.
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I have a factory 14" barrel with the ASP detent mod (necessary in my book)on mine and it shoots Darts, titties, ect… I have seen a few inexpensive phantom packages flow through the sale section recently.
Really though, you should just abandon the project and sell that fine piece at a loss. P.M. me your lowest.
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