DF Phantom Ques

Carl Hungus · 01-16-2008, 10:11 PM

Hello

I currently have a VSC stock class Phantom that I'm thinking about getting a DF body for to start playing with a hopper. This is probably a stupid ques, but do I need to still rock and cock it with this body type? And do the bodies still have a mount for a sight? Its a bit hard to tell from the Wevo pics. How does this setup compare to a CCM pump modified autococker, like a Prostock?

cheers

Brick · 01-16-2008, 10:14 PM

You wont have to rock and cock no, and im not 100% sure but i believe they DO infact have rails, near the rear of the body. but i could be wrong on that one.

xkpxfatassxx · 01-16-2008, 10:19 PM

The site rail on the back of the marker is an add-on. It's fairly cheap, and can be purchased through any cci dealer, or from cci himself.

Ir0nExpress · 01-16-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Hungus

Hello

I currently have a VSC stock class Phantom that I'm thinking about getting a DF body for to start playing with a hopper. This is probably a stupid ques, but do I need to still rock and cock it with this body type? And do the bodies still have a mount for a sight? Its a bit hard to tell from the Wevo pics. How does this setup compare to a CCM pump modified autococker, like a Prostock?

cheers

Rock and cock not necessary, I suggest center feed.

If you want to mount a sight, you need to buy a rail. They come in 2.5 and 5? inches. Smaller one is sufficient. Just remember the CCI ghost rings can't mount onto the dovetail rails, it only works on the SC feedblock.

Comparison as in...? They're quite the different animals.

Phantoms are much lighter, however, their pump stroke requires you to break it in. Sniper's pump strokes are smoother IMO, but the guns are bigger and slightly heavier.

And of course cockers can convert back to semi.

Carl Hungus · 01-16-2008, 10:38 PM

I just need the same 3/8ths mount that the SC one has for my armson sight. Its lightweight.
I guess I was wondering if they were competitive with a sniper style setup, especially since the autotriggering is built in. But I see some pro teams who pump with CCMs so I figured the Phantom was a step down, even open class. Its probably apples and oranges though..
Iron, you were there at Freedom's night right? Good playing with you...

Carl Hungus · 01-16-2008, 10:41 PM

BTW, anyone here use a Phantom barrel kit? Are they much better than just using the detent rings (even though they get bent and lost)?

Ir0nExpress · 01-17-2008, 12:01 AM

Yeaa, that was me!

I cant live without my barrel kit, it's pretty much one of the only problems that you actually face with a phantom. Just get the stock barrel bored out and pick up some used inserts. After you get a barrel kit, tis smooth sailing!

Carl Hungus · 01-17-2008, 12:23 AM

Hey man

I have a Specter kit that rocks my Prostock, but crap, don't really feel like buying Freaks now too. Well, in case I do, who bores out barrels?

aqua_scummm · 01-22-2008, 12:25 PM

Never used a barrel kit for my phantom, never felt the need to after trying one, and I rarely use detent rings.

Nailpolish wedgits - no losing or destroying them, just reapply every couple months, and they fit all sizes of paint

01-16-2008, 10:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Carl Hungus MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 160	DF Phantom Ques Hello I currently have a VSC stock class Phantom that I'm thinking about getting a DF body for to start playing with a hopper. This is probably a stupid ques, but do I need to still rock and cock it with this body type? And do the bodies still have a mount for a sight? Its a bit hard to tell from the Wevo pics. How does this setup compare to a CCM pump modified autococker, like a Prostock? cheers __________________ Logjammin'.... My feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...tml#post245068 My eBay ID: kanal666

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xkpxfatassxx Blah Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,361	The site rail on the back of the marker is an add-on. It's fairly cheap, and can be purchased through any cci dealer, or from cci himself. __________________ Winchesters 50rnd Hoppers $4 3.5 tanks w/ valve $23 Dealer for: CCM, CCI, CP, and other misc companies. Purchase here:Snap Paintball I am not the owner of snappb.

01-16-2008, 10:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Carl Hungus MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 160	I just need the same 3/8ths mount that the SC one has for my armson sight. Its lightweight. I guess I was wondering if they were competitive with a sniper style setup, especially since the autotriggering is built in. But I see some pro teams who pump with CCMs so I figured the Phantom was a step down, even open class. Its probably apples and oranges though.. Iron, you were there at Freedom's night right? Good playing with you... __________________ Logjammin'.... My feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...tml#post245068 My eBay ID: kanal666

01-16-2008, 10:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
Carl Hungus MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 160	BTW, anyone here use a Phantom barrel kit? Are they much better than just using the detent rings (even though they get bent and lost)? __________________ Logjammin'.... My feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...tml#post245068 My eBay ID: kanal666

01-17-2008, 12:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ir0nExpress Why am I here...? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Staten Island/Stony Brook New York Posts: 1,376	Yeaa, that was me! I cant live without my barrel kit, it's pretty much one of the only problems that you actually face with a phantom. Just get the stock barrel bored out and pick up some used inserts. After you get a barrel kit, tis smooth sailing! __________________ President of the SUNY Stony Brook Paintball Club. Pbreview Feedback MCarterBrown Feedback Automags.org Feedback

01-16-2008, 10:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brick Active Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 476	You wont have to rock and cock no, and im not 100% sure but i believe they DO infact have rails, near the rear of the body. but i could be wrong on that one.

01-17-2008, 12:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
Carl Hungus MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 160	Hey man I have a Specter kit that rocks my Prostock, but crap, don't really feel like buying Freaks now too. Well, in case I do, who bores out barrels? __________________ Logjammin'.... My feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...tml#post245068 My eBay ID: kanal666

01-22-2008, 12:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
aqua_scummm MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,417	Never used a barrel kit for my phantom, never felt the need to after trying one, and I rarely use detent rings. Nailpolish wedgits - no losing or destroying them, just reapply every couple months, and they fit all sizes of paint __________________ My choice is what I chose to do, and if I'm causin' no harm, it shouldn't bother you. Your choice is who you chose to be, and if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.

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