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Old 07-16-2017, 12:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
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After I posted this (Phantom problem. Help please.), and didn't really get anywhere, I began playing Open-Class Pump with a 13ci tank and stock class feed.

It's not the "stock class" I would want, but I play to have fun not to wrestle with my marker.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Small gauges are generally not the most accurate, (however they usually are precise/repeatable )I wouldn't be surprised if you were even higher. Still this is an excellent example of how a gauge can tip you off to a problem. Next time try storing your 12 grams in a cooler. Go easy on the ice packs, not trying to freeze them, just keep them out of the sun. I often don't even use an ice pack, the cooler is usually enough. If you notice a big change on your gauge, bleed off some CO2. Probably should re chrono. If all else fails, run HPA. I know the size and weight becomes a handicap but you will still have fun.



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I did have the 12ies inside my cooler but they got hotter as i was playing or carrying them on my harness. Yeah today was really fun without a stock and 12ies, so damn light and manageable to move. I could run vertical 13ci and if hpa is my only option then i might have to get a 9ci on the future..damn it. I was hoping to stick to co2 on my phantom ( a gun designed for co2)

So now, how the hell other cocker stock class players deal with 12ies? I do see videos of ppl running 12ies or 3.5oz on their pumps, in hot california weathers, and their shot reach longer distances than me :/
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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After I posted this (Phantom problem. Help please.), and didn't really get anywhere, I began playing "modified stock class" (Slim, forgive me) with a 13ci tank and stock class feed.

It's not the "stock class" I would want, but I play to have fun not to wrestle with my marker.

Yeah my consistency was pretty good on 13ci but is kinda bulky to run it vertical, good balance tho. And the loud pop off the barrel...
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Update, a friend running 12ies on his phantom told me by changing to red main spring will fix the issue? Any thoughts on that?
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There you go. Fixed it for ya! LOL!
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Update, a friend running 12ies on his phantom told me by changing to red main spring will fix the issue? Any thoughts on that?
Negative. I run a red spring.
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Hey did you try loosening the pump handle a swing or two with the barrel removed?
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I have a strong feeling this is what it is, let me know OK
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:38 AM   #18 (permalink)
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If you go red spring be sure to shoot an entire 12 gram over chrono. As the pressure drops your velocity may go way up due to longer dwell time. It's a real problem with cockers. I'd imagine it would hold true for any paintball gun.


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If you go red spring be sure to shoot an entire 12 gram over chrono. As the pressure drops your velocity may go way up due to longer dwell time. It's a real problem with cockers. I'd imagine it would hold true for any paintball gun.


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In other words, red spring will fix my issue?
I see videos of ppl playing stock class with their phantoms and their pump stroke seem so much smoother and softer compared to mine. Mine even gets kinda stuck a bit when pumping and then i gotta push it all the way up front for the gun to shoot..is hard to explain.
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Hey did you try loosening the pump handle a swing or two with the barrel removed?
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Yes sir, some turns in and some out, cut down the return spring until the softer spot, but still hard enough compared to other phantoms. I even have the brass pump shim grom agroman
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