Phantom Barrel Options Advice

Carl Hungus · 01-18-2008, 05:13 AM

I'm considering a barrel kit option for my Phantom, and I'm wondering what people suggest. I already have detent rings, btw.

I was mainly thinking about grabbing one of WWA's bored stock barrels that takes Freak inserts. I've heard the WWA horror stories but its on eBay and it seems his feedback is good. I'm hoping he treats his eBay sales better but maybe I'm wrong about it. Anyway, for $42 its cheaper than the Freak back.
The I figured that I would get 3 inserts smaller than .691. Maybe a .679, .684, and a .686 or 88.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? I don't really want to drop 130 on a PPS or get a J&J kit for over a 100. I already bought a Scepter kit for my cocker and I'm reluctant to go over $100 for another kit.

cheers

El Gringo · 01-18-2008, 05:17 AM

Take your stock barrel, and send it to Mongo or Twinky to have them bore it out for inserts ($20-$30 + Shipping)

I've dealt with Mongo and have only heard of great things about Twinky.

How much longer is the Scephter insert than the Freak? Talk to them and they might be able to bore out your barrel to fit the Scepter's

Carl Hungus · 01-18-2008, 05:31 AM

Ok cool, I didn't realize there were other guys here doing that. Thanks for the heads up man. I would be a pig in crap if I could use the Scepters in the Phantom somehow...

freedom · 01-18-2008, 02:57 PM

get the WWA barrel on ebay. i did, that's what i loaned out at one shot.

idkfa · 01-18-2008, 03:12 PM

I also think that a bored out stock barrel is the best option. It gives you a nice variety of inserts, and I find it works very well. I have been using one for a little over a month.

I hate supporting Smart Parts, but I am sure they must have actually invented the inserts themselves, right?

Basshead · 01-18-2008, 04:27 PM

All I know is my PPS barrel is AWESOME.

This thing is so consistant that I can't believe it. I've actually kinda' been trying to make it inconsistant since I got it. I keep it loaded and ready (of course all safety precautions are taken) in a room that regularly fluctuates in temperature and humidity. Every once in a while I'll take a few shots at a target I've got out in the yard about 70' away. I've even been shooting from three widely varying bags of paint (Evil, Heat, and Polar Ice). I've been doing this since I got my Phantom and since I bought the PPS barrel I haven't missed that target. I can't say the same for my results with the J&J edge (which I loved before I got the PPS), or the stock barrel, which both had random wingers.

Granted it cost me like $170 (16", .685, dual-vented, dust black) so you get what you pay for.

Oh... and my target is a two foot length of 4"x4" lumber leaned up against a fence. So I'm hitting a 4" wide spot from 70' with a little vertical leeway. And I'm using a red-dot.

MrJR · 01-18-2008, 04:56 PM

If you dont already have Freak inserts, I highly recommend you get the Python kit, available here. It will likely save you some pennies, and you just use them behind your stock barrel. Good luck!

zulu · 01-18-2008, 05:08 PM

Lapco. My buddy uses one and likes it quite a bit.

ehos · 01-18-2008, 05:41 PM

Why not the J&J? You can get used elite kits for ~100. And it comes with 4 barrels

Just sell one or two (or be nice to those fat stock barrel owners) and share them out.

That's why I got mine. My phantom just hates the new micro paint. I figure I'm getting at least 2 useable barrels for one good price, maybe even three.

pinesftw · 01-19-2008, 03:13 AM

I would Consider Either PPS Brass, JJ Kits, and/or Lapco Accushot. Stock Barrel s exceptional too.

01-18-2008, 05:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Carl Hungus MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC	Phantom Barrel Options Advice I'm considering a barrel kit option for my Phantom, and I'm wondering what people suggest. I already have detent rings, btw. I was mainly thinking about grabbing one of WWA's bored stock barrels that takes Freak inserts. I've heard the WWA horror stories but its on eBay and it seems his feedback is good. I'm hoping he treats his eBay sales better but maybe I'm wrong about it. Anyway, for $42 its cheaper than the Freak back. The I figured that I would get 3 inserts smaller than .691. Maybe a .679, .684, and a .686 or 88. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I don't really want to drop 130 on a PPS or get a J&J kit for over a 100. I already bought a Scepter kit for my cocker and I'm reluctant to go over $100 for another kit. cheers __________________ Logjammin'.... My feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...tml#post245068 My eBay ID: kanal666

01-18-2008, 05:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
El Gringo Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006	Take your stock barrel, and send it to Mongo or Twinky to have them bore it out for inserts ($20-$30 + Shipping) I've dealt with Mongo and have only heard of great things about Twinky. How much longer is the Scephter insert than the Freak? Talk to them and they might be able to bore out your barrel to fit the Scepter's __________________ ..... Have a Grateful Day! EL Gringo's Feedback Buy my Black Phoon

01-18-2008, 05:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Carl Hungus MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC	Ok cool, I didn't realize there were other guys here doing that. Thanks for the heads up man. I would be a pig in crap if I could use the Scepters in the Phantom somehow... __________________ Logjammin'.... My feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...tml#post245068 My eBay ID: kanal666

01-18-2008, 03:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
idkfa Stock Class Aficionado Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. John's, NL, Canada	I also think that a bored out stock barrel is the best option. It gives you a nice variety of inserts, and I find it works very well. I have been using one for a little over a month. I hate supporting Smart Parts, but I am sure they must have actually invented the inserts themselves, right? __________________ MCB Feedback The PhOG Feedback eBay Feedback

01-18-2008, 04:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Basshead Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007	All I know is my PPS barrel is AWESOME. This thing is so consistant that I can't believe it. I've actually kinda' been trying to make it inconsistant since I got it. I keep it loaded and ready (of course all safety precautions are taken) in a room that regularly fluctuates in temperature and humidity. Every once in a while I'll take a few shots at a target I've got out in the yard about 70' away. I've even been shooting from three widely varying bags of paint (Evil, Heat, and Polar Ice). I've been doing this since I got my Phantom and since I bought the PPS barrel I haven't missed that target. I can't say the same for my results with the J&J edge (which I loved before I got the PPS), or the stock barrel, which both had random wingers. Granted it cost me like $170 (16", .685, dual-vented, dust black) so you get what you pay for. Oh... and my target is a two foot length of 4"x4" lumber leaned up against a fence. So I'm hitting a 4" wide spot from 70' with a little vertical leeway. And I'm using a red-dot. Last edited by Basshead; 01-18-2008 at 04:41 PM..

01-18-2008, 02:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
freedom ...isn't free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: jerzzeeee shore!	get the WWA barrel on ebay. i did, that's what i loaned out at one shot.

01-18-2008, 04:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
MrJR Seasoned Member Join Date: Apr 2006	If you dont already have Freak inserts, I highly recommend you get the Python kit, available here. It will likely save you some pennies, and you just use them behind your stock barrel. Good luck!

01-18-2008, 05:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
zulu Active Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern California	Lapco. My buddy uses one and likes it quite a bit. __________________ If you're afraid to get muddy, don't ask to be my battle buddy. http://ocmipaintball.com l http://a5og.net Proudly Supported by: My Wife \| WPN \| Lapco l Tiberius Arms \| SC Village \| Tippmann \| JT

01-18-2008, 05:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
ehos Rec Poster Join Date: Mar 2007	Why not the J&J? You can get used elite kits for ~100. And it comes with 4 barrels Just sell one or two (or be nice to those fat stock barrel owners) and share them out. That's why I got mine. My phantom just hates the new micro paint. I figure I'm getting at least 2 useable barrels for one good price, maybe even three.

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