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Old 05-28-2008, 08:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You really start having issues around 500 or so. You'll hit a point where the valve spring/pressure is so light that the valve pops everytime you cock and on occasion the hammer wont even catch. Then you have to deal with velocity issues...

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Old 05-28-2008, 09:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You can probably counter the valve pop with a lighter mainspring. It's just a question of how much more easily the valve opens and whether adding a strong valve spring and light main will allow normal velocity.
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So if you ran it off of something like 600 psi you would be fine. Because I am thinking of running a phantom with a PPS stab as well.
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally back in 2000 when I had my first phantom and had an extra reg laying around I wrote Mike at CCI and asked him the best procedure for using a reg... at the time he probably thought I was nuts... there were and are two thoughts on this:

1. Crank up the velocity with the velocity adjuster on the gun and then use the Regulator as your velocity adjuster

2. Use your reg only to maintain a consistent input pressure and adjust velocity as normal with the adjuster and springs.

I tried method 1 and I didn't really like the performance I got from the gun... as newbish as it sounds, I could get the gun up to velocity but it didn't seem to shoot as far as it did pre reg install. Now it could have been paint to barrel match (which at the time wasn't the HUGE deal it is now... at least where I was) and it could have been just me being dumb. But the reg lasted one day on the phantom before I pulled it.

If I were to install a reg again I would use method 2... especially with CO2.

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Old 07-01-2008, 11:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Thats the method I use with mine. (The second) I have an OLD WGP ergo reg off of my 99 mini sto that sits in the verticle asa as a foregrip. a 3.5oz tank off of the grip as a stock. I use the reg to keep liquid out and the pressure constant. Shoots darts! (untill you find that odd shaped ball)

PS these are still one of the best regs out and can be had on ebay for $0.99!
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I have a question - say you were to run a phantom off of a lower pressure - would you want a softer or firmer spring to get you vlocity up. I thought youd want a firm spring and some agreed with me but others said a light spring would do the trick.

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You want a harder valve spring and lighter main spring, and see where that takes you.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Crap, Just leave it like it is and play the hell out of it. Works fantastic out of the box. Worse case is, spend the 2 dollars or so and get the red and blue main springs as well as the stock ones and run with it.
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:37 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Phantoms were made to run off unregged co2, and they are great at it. Why bother?
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:45 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Cause I live in South FL. (Not that CO2 pressures don't rise with temps everywhere..., but the difference in CO2s pressure form a 70 degree morning and a 99 degree afternoon is SIGNIFICANT. And I believe one of the three legs to accuracy is a good consistant air source going into the marker. Regulated CO2 going into a phantom is just what the dr ordered.

(PS the thee legs are: Consistantly round and same diamiter paint, good paint to barrel match, and a consistant air source.)
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