how should a phantom behave w/o gas

dtpacman · 06-13-2008, 10:42 PM

hey guys, just received my first phantom and I'm pretty psyched about it. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but I had a quick question. So I'm used to snipers and am curious how a phantom should feel when I try to pump it w/o gas? Right now it just pumps back and then forward again with no sniper-type sear catching the hammer feel and the trigger pretty much does't do aything when pulled. So is this typical for a phantom?

Thanks for the help and sorry about the newby question. I'll probably grab some 12g's this weekend and try it out with gas but was just curious what I should expect.

pizzaluvr · 06-13-2008, 10:43 PM

It only catches with gas in it.

Talfuchre · 06-13-2008, 10:52 PM

It should feel like it almost wants to catch - but does not. You can get a Phantom to catch without gas - by putting the heaviest valve spring in it you can find - but stock it will not catch.

TF

HurtCow · 06-13-2008, 10:56 PM

It needs the pressure of the co2 to hold the valve closed so the hammer can grab the carrier. Otherwise the mainspring pushes the hammer which pushes the valve stem open.

dtpacman · 06-13-2008, 10:57 PM

wow, very informative. Thanks everyone for the quick responses.

HurtCow · 06-13-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dtpacman

wow, very informative. Thanks everyone for the quick responses.

We all fall all over ourselves to respond to posts like this so we can feel smart.

Talfuchre · 06-13-2008, 11:25 PM

Hey man - you shut up - I is smart!

TF

06-13-2008, 10:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
dtpacman Rec Poster Join Date: Mar 2008	how should a phantom behave w/o gas hey guys, just received my first phantom and I'm pretty psyched about it. Haven't had a chance to get out with it yet but I had a quick question. So I'm used to snipers and am curious how a phantom should feel when I try to pump it w/o gas? Right now it just pumps back and then forward again with no sniper-type sear catching the hammer feel and the trigger pretty much does't do aything when pulled. So is this typical for a phantom? Thanks for the help and sorry about the newby question. I'll probably grab some 12g's this weekend and try it out with gas but was just curious what I should expect.

06-13-2008, 10:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
pizzaluvr Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arkansas	It only catches with gas in it. __________________ MCB Feedback +26/-0 PBN Feedback +11/-0 Ought Nine Team Sale, Rapper, Legend, Ions, Vlo's, Magna, Gear I ball for Team Fracture B&E Paintball --- Wild World Paintball

06-13-2008, 10:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Talfuchre Brown Chicken, Brown Cow. Join Date: May 2006	It should feel like it almost wants to catch - but does not. You can get a Phantom to catch without gas - by putting the heaviest valve spring in it you can find - but stock it will not catch. TF __________________ Pumpenstein - NSA National Champions 2006 TF's MCB Trust.

06-13-2008, 10:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
HurtCow Thick Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rocklin, CA	It needs the pressure of the co2 to hold the valve closed so the hammer can grab the carrier. Otherwise the mainspring pushes the hammer which pushes the valve stem open. __________________ Everybody loves me! If I hurt your feelings or otherwise offended you, click here.

06-13-2008, 11:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Talfuchre Brown Chicken, Brown Cow. Join Date: May 2006	Hey man - you shut up - I is smart! TF __________________ Pumpenstein - NSA National Champions 2006 TF's MCB Trust.

06-13-2008, 10:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
dtpacman Rec Poster Join Date: Mar 2008	wow, very informative. Thanks everyone for the quick responses.

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