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Old 08-19-2008, 10:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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qloader + phantom= good idea?

played at the ole' local field this weekend with my new vsc phantom with against the usual barrage of electronics and response tippmanns and discovered a desire for carrying more than 15 rounds in the gun at a time. I don't really want to use a rf/lf/cf body because I want to maintain the advantages afforded by a hopper free profile. Anybody foresee problems with plugging the qloader feed hose into the horizontal body? I don't yet own a qloader so I don't know if i would need to craft an adapter or if the hose would just plug right in, but I can't imagine that would be terrible difficult to engineer something. Do you think the force feed would result in double feeds? As far as mounting I was thinking about buying the qloader cms mounting socket and attaching it to the .45 frame right under my t-stock. That seemed to me to be the simplest alternative. Other than that, all I can think of is crafting a larger version of wwa's tank rings to hold the qloader socket or drilling out my t stock and screwing it in that way (although I must admit the thought of drilling makes me cringe, I've done enough drilling in my life to know that sometimes things are better left undrilled) Thoughts?
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i think it would completely unbalance the gun.
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Well, if you could rig the actuall adaptor that the Q-pod clicks into to work as the pump arm, that might be pretty hip.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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RayU on here shoots a Q'ed Phantom the set-up is pretty nice!
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Get a T or L stock and mount the Q loader under or over it. But I think it would look bad and mess up the balance.

Just me, to each his own.

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RayU on here shoots a Q'ed Phantom the set-up is pretty nice!
I want to see a pic of that set-up!
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry, I don't have pics, and my Q is currently not mounted on my Phantom. My mounting socket had broke, they sent me replacement parts, but I haven't gotten around to mounting the system back on my Phantom yet.

I used the CMS system to clamp the system onto my vertical ASA & Stabilizer reg (the vertical ASA by itself is not long enough for the clamp), running parallel to the Phantom. Then I had a short section of hose running to my RF with a 90 degree elbow (which I reused from my Warp feed system).

I'm a lefty, so using RF means that it puts the Q system in front of my body, the loader tube somewhat below my chin. Makes for a very tight, compact setup. And yes, I used to run a Warp system on my Phantom! The weight of the Q on one side doesn't make it imbalanced any more than running a LF/RF hopper, maybe less. The Warp, on the other hand, made everything heavy.

My set up seemed to work well, until the mounting socket broke. But I also have a concern that over time, the additional forces on the vertical ASA and trigger guard would cause the trigger guard to break. I'm currently pondering over a new mounting set up, but I'll need to fabricate/rig up mounting parts.

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Old 08-20-2008, 10:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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if you plug the feed hose in to the horizontal feed the pressure will stop the balls from feeding try filling you feed tube up and putting pressure on the ball stack it wont feed because instead of pressure the first ball into the gun it pushes it forward past the hole because theres room forward of the hole you would need to make some some sort ramp out of epoxy for it to feed at all
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if you plug the feed hose in to the horizontal feed the pressure will stop the balls from feeding try filling you feed tube up and putting pressure on the ball stack it wont feed because instead of pressure the first ball into the gun it pushes it forward past the hole because theres room forward of the hole you would need to make some some sort ramp out of epoxy for it to feed at all
Had to do that with my springfed Microphantom, the 45degree turn basically turns into a dead end when the paint is under pressure. And being a closed bolt marker seems to make it more complicated. If you try to add more surface via epoxy ramp the feedhole will prob get blocked. You would probly have to remove some material to get the desired angle.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If you're handy you could bore out the feed block for a Power Feed plug.
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