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Old 05-09-2009, 09:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Phantom on remote.

So I spent the good half of today's game bashing myself over the head trying to get my phantom chrono'd to 280 +-.

On direct CA or 12grm no problem but not on a remote. I can only assume that the expansion chamber effect of the remote is killing my psi. Any ideas? Harder mains & lighter valve springs?
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Assuming your tank is filled... and you aren't hooking up a 12g to that remote you shouldn't be having any trouble, out put pressure should be the same as direct ca and even a 12 gram. Maybe your remote valve wasn't tightened enough to open the tank's valve or maybe it was screwed in to tight in which it would block/close the valve?

Edit: Just saw your post on the Phog which went a little more in depth. Take into consideration what thkyle posted (at thephog). If that doesn't help might as well try changing springs, cci sells the spring kits (blue, silver, red) you'd want to try the red spring or pick up a stronger spring from your hardware store.

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Old 05-10-2009, 01:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah I've never had this kind of issues on any of my semi's in the past.

The field imo was pretty terrible with c02 fills, mostly HPA players. I actually don't think they tare zeroed the scale correctly. A tank I brought home "filled" couldn't' even cycle my semi, and only took a second or so to empty.

But the same bottle with another remote was the same poor result, however direct back bottle was fine.

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Old 05-10-2009, 11:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i run all my pumps on remote and have no problem. i to go to a field where the fills are mostly air and not liquid co2 like they should. i still can get plenty of speed though. may be your remote pinching off the air coming from the tank by screwing the pin valve in too far so all you have to work with is the air in the tubing.
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are you using paint/bore match?
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try a different remote also. I had similiar issues in the past. Turned out the remote was choking the co2
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Old 05-10-2009, 02:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Used two remotes, same results. Detent ring and a few high tech e-tape anti roll outs. But like I said, with the direct co2 all was super happy.

Tried 2 bottles & two remotes.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Two bottles... two remotes... same problem but your fine with direct ca and 12 grams... have you tried turning the remote out/in? The phantom or tanks cant be the problem since they run fine without the remote. Are you using a check slide valve? Make sure there no debris or anything in that or the 1/8-ASA adapter.
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