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Old 07-25-2010, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thinking about building a J2, lots of questions

So ever since I saw Ryan's J2, I wanted to build one. But.... I have not build a cocker before, so I have some questions.

I want to build a J2 somewhat like this one but with a different anno


Where can I find a 2004 J2 body in good condition, undrilled and even unannoed if possible. And I guess I am going to want a J2 frontblock too?

Where can I find a CCM 86* framed slider, raw if possible?

How bad is it to reanno a gun, I know people say the tolerances get screwed up, but how bad? I see people reanno guns all the time, do they get the anno removed first?

What exactly does an MQ valve do, I know how it works in a pump, but would it do anything in a mech gun?

Are some parts (valves, LPRs, 3 ways) better than others, or is it all personal preference?

Would dual rodding a mech gun be possible? or even help the gun?

I saw the video Pump made with an AT on an autococker, but would it actually shoot paint like that?

Lots of stupid questions, I know, but we can't all be as smart as some of you
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The MQ2 basically functions the same with a semi. You remove all the moving mass from the lower tube thus you can have a smaller LPR pressure, it should also cycle faster (as though you'd really be able to tell a difference using a electro frame). I dont know if its possible to run a mech gun (ie no electronic 3 way) and a MQ2 at the same time, I think you'd run into some serious timing issues.

An AT basically sets the gun into full auto when set up correctly. Pump has a AT'd autococker on youtube to check out.

Anno is always striped before being anno'd. If you get a good shop you'll be fine.

If you want top quality parts I would go with Belsales (Eclipse is the same thing just rebranded) or AKA.

Dual rodding a mech has no purpose at all. I mean you could run two LPRs to two rams to have a lower LPR pressure but its pointless.

Good luck find a semi J2 body, beg CCM with lots of dead presidents?
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Thanks for the answers.

I did see one J2 body with front block for sale on pbn for a crazy low price but then saw it was drilled
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd buy it, you can get those covers for it, it's worth it if its crazy cheap and you can always keep hunting for an undrilled.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just looked at it again, the feedneck threads are stripped, I'm not dealing with that, I already have to get my S5 fixed because of that.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Mq on a semi would be more advantageous than on a pump. I don't see the big advantage of one in a pump but in a semi, for sure, it would be a good idea.

Finding a j2 body will just require lots of hunting BST's on many forums, maybe post some WTB's too. The slider is the same, they have popped up recently but they are pretty rare. I would look for something w/ both of them together, it will probably be easier to find a complete gun rather than build one, but its all hit or miss, and may not actually save you any cash. I wouldn't expect to find any in Raw, that will be like catching Moby Dick on 8lb test.

I will keep my eyes peeled for you, I am looking for a gloss black 86 slider also for a project.

Most anno places will strip your parts and prep them for you.

Dual rods on a semi would be overkill, and require dual rams, a custom frontblock and backblock, more work than its worth, they work fine w/ one.

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Old 07-27-2010, 11:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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good luck, and i think 90% of j2's were drilled for eyes at the factory
my 03 was drilled but has never had a screw in it or an eye

slider will prolly take a lot of luck and a hundy buck
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I owned 4 J2's once. All were drilled.
So hard to find one undrilled.


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It will be much easier to find an 86 slider than it will be to find an undrilled J2, I haven't seen many that were not drilled. You may be able to get the eye holes welded shut, sanded smooth but then you would need to powdercoat or hydrograph it, anodize will look funny where it is welded.
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Wow, they have 86 slider frames? Damn you, now I want one.
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