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Old 08-18-2010, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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S6.5 Vs T2

okay, now that both markers have been out for a decent bit, I'm hoping there are a few of you hat have gotten to shoot both. I might be looking at picking up a nice pump for my birthday, and want some opinions.
Gonna break down how I see each gun, feel free to add or dispute anything (ive shot and held a t2 with an 86, havent touched a s6.5)

T2 Pro
Potential for breach insert sizers
dual pump arms (is this a plus or minus)
Sleek, simple look
vanity back cap (dont like seeing the ivg on cocker based bodies)

T2 Minus
Single nubbin in breech (heard it can break easily)
Dual pump arms make it harder to allign the sled
More difficult to disassemble?

S6.5 Pro
Newer styling (better, more milled and looks better)
Weighs slightly less (yea yea, I know go to the gym)
Origional type s6 pump handle (I was comfortable with this shooting my friends s6)
New ccm fittings?
More reliable and easier to replace detent
Supposedly less machine feel (heard about this, any care to explain?)

S6.5 Minus
No back cap on the lower tube (can I specifically request this mel?)
No dual pump rods (again, is this worth it?)


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Old 08-18-2010, 02:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The dual rods doesn't really doo much on the T2. The pair of them make up for the lack of a guide rod like the traditional pump kits. The 6.5 handle is more secure feeling, but the T2 is far from flimsy. I have shot my T2 a lot, and my 6.5 I have almost a case thru. Personally I like the 6.5 better, but performance wise they are the same. I think the T2 is a touch lighter than the 6.5, but they are both within a couple grams of each other I think, its not a noticeable diffrence unless your a human scale that is deadly accurate. I love my T2, and also love my 6.5, if I had to choose one, I would go w/ the 6.5, but I am glad I can have both and not need to choose. I am more into simple milling and design, so my prefrence of the 6.5 is surprising to me even, but its hard to not think such a beautifull gun is not beautifull, it definetly isn't gaudy. Also, if you haven't tried the new T handle, I highly recommend it, it is super comfy.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yea, I tried the ez comfort handle, and I did like it. How difficult is dealing with the single detend on the t2?

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Old 08-18-2010, 02:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have probably 4-5 cases thru mine and haven't had any detent issues yet. I haven't removed the top tube, only maintenance I have had to do was cleaning the hammer, I just did that because I wanted to adress the dirt issue before it popped up.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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okay, now that both markers have been out for a decent bit, I'm hoping there are a few of you hat have gotten to shoot both. I might be looking at picking up a nice pump for my birthday, and want some opinions.
Gonna break down how I see each gun, feel free to add or dispute anything (ive shot and held a t2 with an 86, havent touched a s6.5)

T2 Pro
Potential for breach insert sizers
Potentially a positive, but I don't think I'll ever use breech sizers.

dual pump arms (is this a plus or minus)
Sleek, simple look
vanity back cap (dont like seeing the ivg on cocker based bodies)

T2 Minus
Single nubbin in breech (heard it can break easily)
I have broken one but I think it was from cleaning/disassembly

Dual pump arms make it harder to allign the sled
Not that big a deal if you snug them down with the sled back

More difficult to disassemble? Yeah, I agree with that.

S6.5 Pro
Newer styling (better, more milled and looks better)
Weighs slightly less (yea yea, I know go to the gym)
Origional type s6 pump handle (I was comfortable with this shooting my friends s6)
I like the orig pump handle, so I'll back you up on this one.

New ccm fittings?
They can go on either gun so not really a factor.

More reliable and easier to replace detent
meh...maybe, the T2 single detent isn't enough of a problem to weigh into the decision IMHO.

Supposedly less machine feel (heard about this, any care to explain?)
The S6.5 just feels smoother, like metal on delrin. The T2 feels like metal on metal.

S6.5 Minus
No back cap on the lower tube (can I specifically request this mel?)
Maybe you could get the IVG anno'd the same color as the body. Mine is gloss black on a gloss red body and I don't really notice it. Also, you may not have enough threads to lower the velocity enough.

No dual pump rods (again, is this worth it?)
Not an issue with the lower guide rod on the pump handle. Actually, this should be moved to an S6.5 pro because you can twist as hard as you want and you won't bind the S6.5. On the other hand, you can bind the T2 pump stroke if you twist too much.

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The strongest factor is probably going to be aesthetics. If you like the look of one more than the other, then go for it. They are both going to be great shooters. I have a slight preference for my S6.5 but I really like my T2 also.
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thanks spoon, thats very helpful. Is it possible to get the ez pump handle on the s6.5?
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Ez pump is an option on the 6.5, you can get the classic handle, t, or the EZ.
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I own both. I honestly think it comes down to your intent with the marker.

If you want the ability to change feeds (From Right to Left to Center) then the T2 is for you.

If you don't mind being 'stuck' with vert feed - then you are fine - you can still change to SC feed like the T2 with the S6P.

Both shoot lazers - both feel similar and have a similar sight picture.

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Old 08-18-2010, 04:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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^^^ nice. Im comming from mostly electro so Im used to centerfeed
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