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wrongbloke 01-23-2012 11:25 PM

Works history questions
 
So I've had a works for awhile now, works are definaely my favorite cocker/sniper body style and I always keep aneye out for them in the bst.

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/m...tocockers.html

So above is a link containing some great examples but also raises a few questions I've had about works cockers for awhile that I hope the good folks here who know the history behind them can answer as it will help me with restoring mine back to factory condition.

-I've noticed the difference in milling on works previously, one type tends to have bottom tube milling that has longer/straighter cuts and p-blocks. Others have smaller oval milling on the bottom tube, traditional flat back blocks, and seem more likely to have the works "w" engraved behind the barrel. Wich body style is earlier?

-every Merlin works I've seen has the p-blocks and the longer/straighter lower tube milling. However, mine isn't a Merlin but is that style, what's the deal?

-I've seen slider frames marked "works", hinge frames with the "w", and ccm hinge frames. which frames are associated with which body type?

-I also see two types of bolts and cocking rods. What I believe to be the older ones are ribbed on the back while what I believe to be the newer ones look like more contemporary ccm bolts and cocking rods. Are the newer looking ones stock or have they in many cases been added post-purchase?

Thanks!

Triemferent 01-26-2012 12:20 AM

if I could add one more question .....
at what point were Xcel barrels used instead of the works barrels?

ryanhall41 01-26-2012 12:46 AM

The longer straiter lower tube milling is commonly refered to as the "pill" milling and these were the older ones. Below is a pic of my old work and the cocking rod that is pictured is the newer style one aswell but I have a ccm bolt in there.

they made the P-blocks in the older and newer styles as well as the normal backblock in bost styles aswell.
dont quote me on it but i believe that mine was a 2002 or 2003 and the other pill style were 2000 and earlier

Some of the works did use merlin extrusions and some also had merlin feednecks but most of the feednecks were angel threaded

they made works slider frames for the older pill style and i believe for the newer style as well but the hinge (they are really called swing) frames are only for the newer style

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMG_0221.jpg

chillinspyder2 02-02-2012 10:34 AM

Also want to tack on a question. I've noticed alot of the Works I own use Sonic LPRs. Did those come stock, or did alot of people just decide that Sonic LPRs were a better replacement?

wrongbloke 02-02-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chillinspyder2 (Post 2192523)
Also want to tack on a question. I've noticed alot of the Works I own use Sonic LPRs. Did those come stock, or did alot of people just decide that Sonic LPRs were a better replacement?

From what I've found, a lot of people say that they used to use sonic lpr's and gladiator pr's before switching over to their own.

808raoul 02-02-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillinspyder2 (Post 2192523)
Also want to tack on a question. I've noticed alot of the Works I own use Sonic LPRs. Did those come stock, or did alot of people just decide that Sonic LPRs were a better replacement?

I was wondering this as well. The Mini Works Merlin I picked up had a Sonic LPR and I noticed that others had Macdev LPRs on them as well.Not so much the Glads though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrongbloke (Post 2192577)
From what I've found, a lot of people say that they used to use sonic lpr's and gladiator pr's before switching over to their own.

Good to know.

Spazdoc 02-08-2012 09:32 PM

Correct, first round of Words had Merlin bodies slide grip frame with solid trigger plate, Gladiator reg, Sonic LPR, STO ram, and CCM 3-way. Barrels were clear polished, and not matched. Later, the slide trigger plate became milled, barrel matched the body, and the body was made by Chipley, but looked similar to the original pill milling. With the 'third generation' the pneus and HPR were all Chipley, although barrels were either Dye Excel or Works barrel.

Modded-Like-Hell 02-09-2012 08:57 PM

and of course mine sat somewhere in between before i pumped it...

old-style pill body, "works BB" but with the new-style pneu, hinge, internals?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...DSC_0037-1.jpg

heres a merlin one someones keeping warm for me for a while...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...erlinworks.png

csermonet47 11-21-2012 06:41 PM

BUMMPPP

I want to hear more info on these. If I recall correctly (which might be a little off since I have been on a 3.5 year hiatus), the first 100 Works guns were based off the AKA extrusions and there were only 30 or so P-Block guns. When did Works become CCM and what was the story behind it? Maybe some employees can shed some light on the facts behind these guns. What years certain styles were made, wire detents vs. spring detents, when they switched things around, what factory "unicorns" there were, etc. It almost seems like every gun is different in little ways between milling, trigger frames, and other options. I would like the separate the slop from the facts!

Here is mine (shameless whoring):

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/100_4555.jpg

ApoC_101 11-21-2012 08:10 PM

ahh man, I totally missed out on getting one in a trade from a friend of mine, he's an ex-teammate of the guy that made these guns... it was an original team gun of theirs (he still has another one but he's keeping it). totally blew it lol


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