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Old 02-22-2012, 05:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Not sure bro... I think the J2L was a more limited run than the S5 and the SS-25 but I could be wrong... Don't think there are more than a couple hundred out there... mine's #192. All I know is the SS-25 was the gun that got me interested in CCM! And yet I've still never owned one
I got a ss-25 in a trade and was like "this is the greatest thing ever" It was pretty beat up and not really that smooth compared to all the other ccm guns Ive had but I still miss it. It is what got me hooked on ccm's and would love to get another at some point.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm with TF on this. I think people look at milling and think more expensive and better. I do like slab bodies, I actually just bought an old body from bacci, but I as well prefer milled bodies for the aesthetics. My slab body is for a fun project to bring back old memories.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone, lot of good info / points here.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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This one seems pretty straight forward to me if gun X and gun Y perform excellent (ex. S5 and J2L) but one is bland and the other is aesthetically pleasing you'd probably go with the latter.

Sorry I don't like the way the S5 looks, don't hate me :'(
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
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who cares. cheaper ccm...shoots awesome still?

thats advertisement for ccm
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It is heavy, outdated, and ugly in some eyes. I think they are still amazing shooters. This thought is due to the way companies produce guns. If its not the newest model it must be bad. I have wanted a series 5 for a while.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder because I think you guys are
high for not liking the Series 5

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the s5/ss-25 were "budget" ccm's, they were cheaper brand new than the J2's/s6's.
Is this a fact? I have not been around long enough to know.
If it is, what exactly has been done to those two full bodied pumps that
would allow CCM to price them one or even two hundred dollars less?

The quality on my Series 5 feels no less than any other of their models Ive held
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder because I think you guys are
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Is this a fact? I have not been around long enough to know.
If it is, what exactly has been done to those two full bodied pumps that
would allow CCM to price them one or even two hundred dollars less?

The quality on my Series 5 feels no less than any other of their models Ive held

If I remember right it was about the same "quality difference" as a bone stock Vert Feed cocker and a Black Magic. All the parts were almost identical, but one was black and blocky. Black and blocky went for significantly less than "OOOHH AAAHHH" milled one. It was the way the market was at the time... same as buick over a chevy.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well, what looks better to you? That isn't to discredit the S5, It's a great gun, it just isn't always as pretty.
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I personally think the S5 looks gorgeous. I am into classic lines and sharp edges though, it kind of reflects my tastes in vehicles, I like things most do not.

The new prototype does look nice, but you can't really say that the S5 looks worse, just more contemporary, and all business, many people love that, look at the t2, it is about as plain as the s5 but has ax totally different appeal.

The S5 is on the lower end of the price for used CC M's because it is the oldest common CCM pump. Next is the SS25 bit they hold some more value do to their ability to be stock class fed or open class, as long as they are in nice shape. The S5 with a Slider frame however is at the higher end of the used market for CCM's due to the frames rarity.

It mostly comes down to the age of it, the older the gun the less many are willing to pay for it.
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