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Old 08-02-2012, 11:04 PM   #351 (permalink)
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You can learn to shoot first strikes without a riser rail but why would youwant to? I started using them when they were introduced and that's the way we shot them before the adjustable risers were introduced. The problem is that it's not like shooting a.308 an inch or two high at slightly longer range. For a first-strike rifle sighted in at 50 yards, first-strike holdover at 100 at 100 yards is measured in feet. It is impossible to shoot accurately with any consistency at long ranges without some kind of adjustable rail.

Shadawg's right on this one. Just put a good black picatinny rail on the top and let people choose their own sight or optics.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:24 AM   #352 (permalink)
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I'm not really sure what to make. We have been working with angle rails but they don't work at all ranges.

We may just end up buying some ready made flat rails and call it good.

I want to make something adjustable but thats going to have to wait.
A standard rail is fine. I was about to PM you about the possibility of sending one to you to get match anodised in the next batch and fitted.

After your alert it dawned on me how absurd a commercially anodised rail will look on top of the dust receiver.

I've already been comparing the 2 APRs on the market and I'm leaning to the TA one b/c of its click adjustments. The only downside is how it resets if turned upside down.
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:31 AM   #353 (permalink)
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I've already been comparing the 2 APRs on the market and I'm leaning to the TA one b/c of its click adjustments. The only downside is how it resets if turned upside down.
Could you explain what you have learned a bit more? Like how click adjustments are better and what the other rail uses? When you say reset do you it needs to be rezeroed?
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:43 AM   #354 (permalink)
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A standard rail is fine. I was about to PM you about the possibility of sending one to you to get match anodised in the next batch and fitted.

After your alert it dawned on me how absurd a commercially anodised rail will look on top of the dust receiver.

I've already been comparing the 2 APRs on the market and I'm leaning to the TA one b/c of its click adjustments. The only downside is how it resets if turned upside down.
mine didn't reset if held upside down.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:57 AM   #355 (permalink)
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mine didn't reset if held upside down.
If that's true maybe they've done a new version? I don't have the risers on hand yet, just going off of reviews I've been reading here on the forum. Seems there's tradeoffs between each (Tiberius and killjoy).

Either way, the tiberius riser is the one I'm going for due to the easier adjustment.
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:09 AM   #356 (permalink)
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If that's true maybe they've done a new version? I don't have the risers on hand yet, just going off of reviews I've been reading here on the forum. Seems there's tradeoffs between each (Tiberius and killjoy).

Either way, the tiberius riser is the one I'm going for due to the easier adjustment.
I duno if there's a second version. I also didn't have a heavy scope on the riser.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:39 AM   #357 (permalink)
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:53 PM   #358 (permalink)
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If that's true maybe they've done a new version? I don't have the risers on hand yet, just going off of reviews I've been reading here on the forum. Seems there's tradeoffs between each (Tiberius and killjoy).

Either way, the tiberius riser is the one I'm going for due to the easier adjustment.
Let me just give you another point of view. I have used and own the Tiberius riser and both the Killjoy model 1 & 2. From my point of view it's not even a close call. The Killjoy 2 APR is the best hands down. It's easy to adjust and the lines they added on the back of the new one tell you exactly how high you are. It's also about half the weight of the Tiberius rail. The real problem with Tibetius's mount is that the ball bearing, click design means there is a bit of play in the rail. I talked to Eric at Tiberius the wobble thinking that I had a defective rail and he told me that because of the design there will always be a little movement in it.

If possible use or handle one before you buy.
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This wait is exhausting .... Played yesterday night .. And the whole time I was in self pitty mode that "I have to play without a Ccm sr-1" needless to say I was not having a swell time
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This wait is exhausting .... Played yesterday night .. And the whole time I was in self pitty mode that "I have to play without a Ccm sr-1" needless to say I was not having a swell time
Haha... Wait till you use one. You constantly have to keep telling your self" oh wait! I don't have to get so close up on them!" it's been a hard habit to put behind.and when you finally do you feel like a guard for sure.

For you guys waiting it soooooo well worth the wait.
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