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Old 01-09-2013, 01:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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mine is scary quite, when you dont hold the handle forward, its silent, its GREAT
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes, "Different" is a good way to describe it. Especially if you are used to the signature sound of other CCM markers that don' t fart.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:04 PM   #33 (permalink)
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mine is scary quite, when you dont hold the handle forward, its silent, its GREAT
CCM solved that problem by creating a larger diameter guide rod, boring it out to create more volume of air and by extending the valve chamber a bit. The result is no farting when you take your hand off of the pump handle (as experienced on proto-type models) with a drop of FPS of only 5-10. The reg pressure was able to be dropped from 350 (on the prototypes) to 275 for the production models.

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Old 01-09-2013, 02:08 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I did notice the drilled out guide arm last night when i was tearin her apart, very cool
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:20 PM   #35 (permalink)
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yea you should never hold the pump forward if you want maximum quiet... allowing the bolt to kick back that tiny bit makes a big difference in noise with snipers, and it looks cool

(also if it's tuned perfectly there shouldn't be any considerable velocity drop, 5-10 fps is okay)
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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What I realized through my tear down and session with Rod today is that this really is a different take on a pump marker.

It sounds a little 'chuffy' if it were a sniper - but this is not your momma's sniper. The hammer is completely unattached from the bolt. The valve sleeve is very different - the back is sealed - the IVG is gone (or placed in the hammer rather) the reg is rethought (there is no reg piston for instance) and other changes.

I think the important thing here is to NOT compare this to a SNiper or CCM Series Marker of other makes - this is a different beast.

Very cool - I am deeply impressed with the engineering and changes that went into this - marker - and how it was tweaked post production. VERY impressed. It may not be for everyone - but I think people who see one, see how only a few allen keys take it apart - and how it all fits back together - how the timing cannot be off once set - how the reg is treated as a 'set it and forget it' item now - it really is DIFFERENT.

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Old 01-12-2013, 12:12 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Finished 4 Reg Testers tonight.

have 4 more than just need the 1/8 npt threading

not sure on pricing, debating adding knurling to the OD, and a few other little details

more info tomorrow!
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:40 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Personally - I would Knurl the outside - I think it would be helpful with greasy hands - and would just look cool.

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Old 01-12-2013, 12:52 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Well I just realized I didn't drill the cross holes, so they gotta go back to the shop

Might as well knurl em too
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Damned Banjo design!

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