ccm grip frame screw

Quickling · 03-18-2008, 11:56 PM

I see that the ccm frames extend to the end of the body, my question is, which of the two screw holes in the rear of the cocker body (grip frame or beaver tail mounting hole) do the ccm frames use?

The reason I am asking is that I am planning on installing one on a new style pump karni and the beaver tail screw actually holds the IVG in place somewhat.

spymongoose · 03-19-2008, 12:37 AM

the forward 2 holes are the grip frame screw holes. like you said that 3rd hole is there for beavertails and sometimes holding the ivg in place. on '98 and newer cockers (like your carnie) that hole is threaded so you can install a beaver tail. because most (all?) ccm frames have built in beaver tails the ccm guys covere that 3rd hole with their frames. you are probably gonna have to mill down or cut off *gasp* part of the ccm gripframe in order to do what you are planning.

tedaut · 03-19-2008, 05:18 AM

They actually mill out the frame at that spot where the beavertail screw would be . I have an old cocker body with the old style ivg and the screw to hold the ivg can still be used. You should not have any problems.

Talfuchre · 03-19-2008, 09:02 AM

Tedaut,

This is true for the Series 6 frame. They actually make two different types of frames. The one for the Series 5 Basic had no submerged screws and less milling - that is about it as far as differences - but I just wanted to be complete.

TF

Quickling · 03-19-2008, 11:24 PM

so the newer frames will work?

SnowZone · 03-25-2008, 08:44 AM

What about leaving the frame alone and using a set screw in the hole to hold the IVG.

CCM CHICK · 03-26-2008, 02:25 PM

Snowzone- love your Ocho banner.... that's pretty creative and then some!!

DarkArmorPB · 03-26-2008, 03:47 PM

The Chef-Boyar-Dave one kills me. LOL

DA

SnowZone · 03-26-2008, 04:44 PM

Wish I could take credit... Zero did it up a couple of weeks ago.

Quickling · 03-27-2008, 02:12 AM

moving back on topic...

the reason that I would prefer to not simply go with the set screw method is that if the velocity required adjustment via the IVG then the frame would have to be removed to accomplish this.

However I would not cut the frame, that would be silly. I just want to know if I can get a frame with 2 holes in the back.

03-18-2008, 11:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Quickling Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 125	ccm grip frame screw I see that the ccm frames extend to the end of the body, my question is, which of the two screw holes in the rear of the cocker body (grip frame or beaver tail mounting hole) do the ccm frames use? The reason I am asking is that I am planning on installing one on a new style pump karni and the beaver tail screw actually holds the IVG in place somewhat.

03-19-2008, 12:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
spymongoose I am the thread killer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 811	the forward 2 holes are the grip frame screw holes. like you said that 3rd hole is there for beavertails and sometimes holding the ivg in place. on '98 and newer cockers (like your carnie) that hole is threaded so you can install a beaver tail. because most (all?) ccm frames have built in beaver tails the ccm guys covere that 3rd hole with their frames. you are probably gonna have to mill down or cut off gasp part of the ccm gripframe in order to do what you are planning. __________________ My Feedback My Gallery

03-19-2008, 09:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Talfuchre Moderator to Chef Dave! Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,920	Tedaut, This is true for the Series 6 frame. They actually make two different types of frames. The one for the Series 5 Basic had no submerged screws and less milling - that is about it as far as differences - but I just wanted to be complete. TF __________________ Pumpenstein - NSA National Champions 2006 TF's MCB Trust.

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SnowZone MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southwestern Ontario Posts: 202	What about leaving the frame alone and using a set screw in the hole to hold the IVG. __________________ Proud Member Of Canadian Response MCB Feedback First posted by AZZY: I thought most kids couldnt spell Angel. I've seen tons of angles for sale, I would like to buy an oblique one please.

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DarkArmorPB VampiresTasteLikeChicken Join Date: May 2006 Location: St Louis area Posts: 861	The Chef-Boyar-Dave one kills me. LOL DA __________________ How They Make Paintballs. Total Greif Xtreme Paintball park / Milstadt Il. MCBrown Feedback PBNation Feedback

03-19-2008, 05:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
tedaut MCB Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 142	They actually mill out the frame at that spot where the beavertail screw would be . I have an old cocker body with the old style ivg and the screw to hold the ivg can still be used. You should not have any problems.

03-19-2008, 11:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Quickling Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 125	so the newer frames will work?

03-26-2008, 02:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
CCM CHICK The chick @ CCM Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Far- Nor-Cal Posts: 175	Snowzone- love your Ocho banner.... that's pretty creative and then some!!

03-26-2008, 04:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
SnowZone MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southwestern Ontario Posts: 202	Wish I could take credit... Zero did it up a couple of weeks ago. __________________ Proud Member Of Canadian Response MCB Feedback First posted by AZZY: I thought most kids couldnt spell Angel. I've seen tons of angles for sale, I would like to buy an oblique one please.

03-27-2008, 02:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
Quickling Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 125	moving back on topic... the reason that I would prefer to not simply go with the set screw method is that if the velocity required adjustment via the IVG then the frame would have to be removed to accomplish this. However I would not cut the frame, that would be silly. I just want to know if I can get a frame with 2 holes in the back.

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