Air Efficiency question.

himurax13 · 07-09-2008, 08:23 PM

I just recently aquired an SS-25, not sure of the year, which is my first CCM Marker. Don't worry, I will post up pics in a day or so. So my question is, what is the range of the amount of shots that I can get with a 12 gram, a 13/3000 tank, and a 45/4500 tank? I have a friend who religiously plays with his CCM pump, not sure of the model, but he tells me that he only gets 600 shots from his 45/4500. I was wondering if I could increase the efficiency by changing out the valve to either a Palmer's LT Valve or an AKA Tornado Valve, or by fine tuning with a spring kit. The only reason why I ask is that I typically get about 350 to 400 shots per 1000 PSI with my Viking that is using a 45/4500 tank and a Deadlywind Barrel.

Heebs · 07-09-2008, 08:36 PM

600 shots sounds like a load of bull... I get over 1,000 with my Droid and its a SPOOL valve...

himurax13 · 07-09-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Heebs

600 shots sounds like a load of bull... I get over 1,000 with my Droid and its a SPOOL valve...

Well that is what the customer said and you know, the customer is always right (even if they are wrong

). You also forget that the Droid is the most efficient stock spool valved marker ever made. It only took like 6 years to figure out how to do that.

russc · 07-09-2008, 09:06 PM

Sniper pressures and spring settings affect efficiency quite a bit.

idkfa · 07-09-2008, 09:16 PM

Indeed. I have heard that CCM guns are not overly efficient due to the springing for smooth pump strokes. 600 does seem a tad low, but not entirely impossible (again, based on what I have heard).

fasteddy · 07-09-2008, 10:17 PM

Actually, 600 is probably about right.

Source, my S5.

hvacman250 · 07-09-2008, 10:27 PM

CCM valve spring is super weak and very inefficient. Go to a stiffer valve spring; you'll have a harder pump stroke, but near double the efficiency.

Milkshake · 07-09-2008, 10:28 PM

I have a S6 prototype and get more than that out of mine now that I turned the reg pressure up. The prototype is mini'd and TF suggested I try it at 450-500 and it has made a drastic difference. I use a 68/4500 at scenarios and got between 1200-1500 at the last 2 day I went to.

VIP3R · 07-10-2008, 01:03 AM

make sure the regulator is sweetspotted

hawaiianking · 07-10-2008, 03:34 AM

I havent played with my ss-25 in a while but I seem to remember getting 150-200 shots from a 13/3000

07-09-2008, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
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07-09-2008, 09:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
idkfa Stock Class Aficionado Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. John's, NL, Canada	Indeed. I have heard that CCM guns are not overly efficient due to the springing for smooth pump strokes. 600 does seem a tad low, but not entirely impossible (again, based on what I have heard). __________________ MCB Feedback The PhOG Feedback eBay Feedback

07-09-2008, 10:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
hvacman250 Seasoned Member Join Date: Nov 2006	CCM valve spring is super weak and very inefficient. Go to a stiffer valve spring; you'll have a harder pump stroke, but near double the efficiency. __________________ Feedback

07-09-2008, 10:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Milkshake Active Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: upstate SC	I have a S6 prototype and get more than that out of mine now that I turned the reg pressure up. The prototype is mini'd and TF suggested I try it at 450-500 and it has made a drastic difference. I use a 68/4500 at scenarios and got between 1200-1500 at the last 2 day I went to. __________________ Carolina Riot "My pastures are the greenest cause I know how to spread the manure" 1up baller http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

07-09-2008, 10:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
fasteddy Active Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FL	Actually, 600 is probably about right. Source, my S5.

07-10-2008, 01:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
VIP3R Active Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arizona	make sure the regulator is sweetspotted

07-10-2008, 03:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
hawaiianking Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii	I havent played with my ss-25 in a while but I seem to remember getting 150-200 shots from a 13/3000

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