Anyone ever consider this?

O'Lane · 04-04-2007, 11:43 PM

My brother own's a KP-3 which has been giving us problems for a long time now... continually leaking, etc. I'm sure sooner or later it'll go of the Palmer's for a refinishing/fixing... But I was looking at it the other day and my phantom. Came up with the idea of building a KP replica using Phantom Internals, now of course it wouldn't be 100% spot on, but close. Basically considering machining a 1-piece brass body and barrel like the KP's, then soldering on a spring feed 20 rd brass feed tube ontop of the body/barrel. Remachining the phantom trigger housing to locate it further back to fit a stock properly. Overall really simple design, hardest part would be decreasing the ID of the body to become the ID of the barrel which would basically involve using a 1" OD w/ wall thickness of Phantom Body to create the main body/barrel outside, then suspend a piece of 13/16 OD w/ .062 wall using machined spacers to fill in the gap between the actual brass barrel's OD and bodies ID, then solder it all in place. Here's a real quick scetch of it, what do you guys think?

Azzy · 04-05-2007, 12:16 AM

Basically a brass Crowdbuster then?

O'Lane · 04-05-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Azzy

Basically a brass Crowdbuster then?

Pretty much, except it would appear to be a KP, 1-piece barrel/body, soldered on feed tube, etc. And then drop it into a nice wooden stock.

SpyyMarket1978 · 04-05-2007, 01:29 AM

It might end up looking like a BE Nightmare with a wood stock. Sounds nice.

Fireball · 04-05-2007, 02:00 AM

You're going to need one monster of a pump rod, though, I'm thinking. Lengthwise and thickness...uh....wise.

Z50 · 04-05-2007, 11:04 AM

Yes, that is close what I am doing for my summer project this year. I am going to use telescoping tubing (ID of one is the OD of the next size up) to transition between the barrel and the body; I am using Lapco internals and am planning a few other things that can't be discussed until the project is complete.

O'Lane · 04-05-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireball

You're going to need one monster of a pump rod, though, I'm thinking. Lengthwise and thickness...uh....wise.

Not really I would think, something around the thickness of the standard Phantom pump rod, alittle longer though, the stock will be cut up front like the KP ones are.

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Originally Posted by Z50

Yes, that is close what I am doing for my summer project this year. I am going to use telescoping tubing (ID of one is the OD of the next size up) to transition between the barrel and the body; I am using Lapco internals and am planning a few other things that can't be discussed until the project is complete.

Sounds good man.

O'Lane · 04-05-2007, 10:04 PM

I just sent a fax to Canadianbrass.ca, trying to get a qoute on 2' lengths of varying sizes of brass pipe needed to start this project, if the price is right, I'll place the order and get on w/ it.

XXFETTXX · 04-06-2007, 01:01 AM

Bolt action and I would buy one……..

04-04-2007, 11:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
O'Lane Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007	Anyone ever consider this? My brother own's a KP-3 which has been giving us problems for a long time now... continually leaking, etc. I'm sure sooner or later it'll go of the Palmer's for a refinishing/fixing... But I was looking at it the other day and my phantom. Came up with the idea of building a KP replica using Phantom Internals, now of course it wouldn't be 100% spot on, but close. Basically considering machining a 1-piece brass body and barrel like the KP's, then soldering on a spring feed 20 rd brass feed tube ontop of the body/barrel. Remachining the phantom trigger housing to locate it further back to fit a stock properly. Overall really simple design, hardest part would be decreasing the ID of the body to become the ID of the barrel which would basically involve using a 1" OD w/ wall thickness of Phantom Body to create the main body/barrel outside, then suspend a piece of 13/16 OD w/ .062 wall using machined spacers to fill in the gap between the actual brass barrel's OD and bodies ID, then solder it all in place. Here's a real quick scetch of it, what do you guys think? __________________ "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing" God Bless America

04-05-2007, 12:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
Azzy Mod-O-Rator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Finleyville, PA	Basically a brass Crowdbuster then? __________________ Bryan "Azzy" Spiegel Riverside Renegade Paintball / C.C. S.V.S. Plankowner - LPPC#6 "It is my right to be uncommon—if I can. I seek opportunity—not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act for myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations and to face the world boldly and say, “This I have done.” - Dean Alfange

04-05-2007, 10:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
O'Lane Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007	I just sent a fax to Canadianbrass.ca, trying to get a qoute on 2' lengths of varying sizes of brass pipe needed to start this project, if the price is right, I'll place the order and get on w/ it. __________________ "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing" God Bless America

04-06-2007, 01:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
XXFETTXX SLAVE 1 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: N.H.	Bolt action and I would buy one…….. __________________ XXFETTXX'S FEEDBACK

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04-05-2007, 01:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
SpyyMarket1978 MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bay Area California	It might end up looking like a BE Nightmare with a wood stock. Sounds nice.

04-05-2007, 02:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Fireball Active Member Join Date: Sep 2006	You're going to need one monster of a pump rod, though, I'm thinking. Lengthwise and thickness...uh....wise.